It's a good salad though
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Omg is that Mr Congo?
Oh yeah well I got a dog named after me
Why do we have to guess the people we don't know?
The Caesar salad was created in Tijuana and it’s named after the guy who created it.
Julius is out here taking credit for everything.
The Russian word for emperor or king “царь” (English: Tsar) comes from Caesar.
I think being such an influential ruler that countries use your name to mean ruler is a little more impressive than a salad.
Naturally, as the Russian empire is the third Rome.
Don't believe me? Then get out! gestures towards open window
Hey now, the Russian empire ended with revolution and eventually ended up turning into the current Russian empire (lol) but iirc they married off a Romanoff to Finland before the Bolshevik revolution, and Finland became a republic through weird government chaos rather than a direct overthrow of the government, so technically I think Finland is the true heir to the Roman Empire
Same for German Kaiser which sounds quite different
Not if you pronounce it correctly. Cesar was not seesaw but Ke(tamin)sar(in gas). And Ke-sar to kei-sar is pretty close.
There is no one "correct" way to pronounce a language that's spoken over centuries in such a huge area. The German is close to the classical pronunciation of Julius' time while the Russian was borrowed much later when Latin already undergone a number of sound shifts. That's why German Kaiser is very different from Russian царь as I said in my first comment and I hope you won't deny that.
while the Russian was borrowed much later when Latin already undergone a number of sound shifts
The changes in the word aren't from Latin, they're Slavic in origin. They show the borrowing was rather early, and a bit messy:
- Latin ⟨Caesar⟩ /'kaɪ̯.sar/ →
- Greek ⟨Καῖσᾰρ⟩ /'kâi̯.sar/~/'cɛ:.sar/ →
- Gothic ⟨𐌺𐌰𐌹𐍃𐌰𐍂⟩ /'kɛ:sar/ →
- Common Slavic *cěsãřь; this should be around ['tsʲĕsa:rʲĭ] in IPA. Eventually shortened to *cãřь, roughly [tsa:rʲĭ]
Then either Russian inherited *cãřь, or side-borrowed it from Old Church Slavonic. Either way the ending yer got dropped, the long vowel shortened, and you get the modern Russian form, ⟨царь⟩ [tsarʲ].
/aɪ̯/→/ɛ:/ could be from Latin, Greek or Gothic; all three underwent it.
That /k/→/tsʲ/ change is the progressive palatalisation of Common Slavic. Something similar happened in Latin, but after Greek borrowed the word, and Common Slavic interacted way more with Greek than with Latin.
But the biggest change was that completely erratic shortening, from *cěsãřь to *cãřь. Wiktionary mentions this happened with English cyning→cyng→king and mistress→miss; I've also seen this happening with Portuguese ⟨senhor⟩ mister, dialectally rendered as "siô", "sô", "nhô" etc. (Plus its female form ⟨senhora⟩→siá, sá, nhá etc.)
And the fucking month of July. From julius.
I think the "Victorian era" is only valid, when talking about English history.
For European history, I would use "Napoleonic era", "age of revolution", "age of nationalism", for world history probably "age of colonialism".
What about the US?
Napoleon was gone by the time Vicky came around, but "age of nationalism" might work. She reigned over the most important nation through that entire period that was industrial but not really modern yet (died 1901 IIRC), so it's not surprising she's become the byword.
Edit: I wonder if "Elizabethan" or "second Elizabethan" might become a similar umbrella, since she also reigned through a long and fairly distinct period. Probably not, unless monarchy makes a big comeback and future students of history care to label things that way.
We are now in the reign of King Charles III, or Chuck as I prefer to call him. We are now in the Age of Chuck, or the Chuckian Age.
What about 'em? I don't know what about the US. They were still colonising, so they fall under the canopy of age of colonialism.
Nationalism, because many now-countries underwent the process of nation building. The focus went from being ruled by a monarchical house to being grouped with people of the same ethnicity, however that is understood.
This describes any settler nation but also Italy, Germany, everyone in the Balkan region.
I forget the "industrial revolution" which is also a parallel era-defining development.
My opinion: Age of ...
- Discovery: 1420 - 1600
- Colonialism: 1600-1980
- Enlightenment: 1720-1800
- Revolution: 1770-1850
- Industrial revolution: 1750-1900
- Nationalism: 1800-1920
- Decolonisation: 1950-2000
Btw, the German Wikipedia article for "Victorian era" literally says: "In British history, the Victorian Age (also known as the Victorian Era) usually refers to the long period of Queen Victoria's reign from 1837 to 1901."
That's why I'm making all this fuzz, cause it's not universal. Sorry for rambling.
That's reasonable. It looks like other people agree with you about the age of discovery, although I always thought of it extending longer. Australia and NZ were discovered by Europeans in the mid-1600s, and Siberia and Alaska (which are somewhat geopolitically significant) had ongoing exploration into the 1700s.
I'd also move colonialism at least back to Columbus.
Better than that whole cutting a baby out of the womb thing
He also has a month named after him. And all Kaisers and Tsars too
And a method of extracting babies from the womb.
Not just a month, a whole calendar.
My working model of the future is that we're simply on the dumbest timeline. The nutcases that think vaccines cause autism are running vaccine regulation. At this point, I'm just going to assume the stupidest outcome.
My prediction for the next cultural fever dream the right will go down? We need to reverse the Gregorian reforms and return to the Julian Calendar! Again, this is assuming we exist and remain on the stupidest timeline.
That escalated quickly...
everyone always forgets Chef Cardini
I thought the dog guy invented it
Top: literally who?
Middle: literally who?
Bottom: SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS! BYTHINICA REGINA! LVTEE! REX IMMVNDE! If only Octavian had the same fate as this trash... the salad is not even yours, it's Cesare Cardini's! *mumbles further rage words*
(inb4 Bolívar, Victoria.)
the salad is not even yours, it's Cesare Cardini's
To be fair Cesare Cardini was named after the Caesar so in a way the salad is also named after him.
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