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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez holds a slight lead over Vice President JD Vance in a hypothetical 2028 presidential matchup, according to a new poll.

The New York Democratic congresswoman, known as AOC, edges the likely Republican nominee 51% to 49%, in The Argument/Verasight survey released on Tuesday. However, the result was within the poll's 2.7 percentage point margin of error, making the two candidates statistically tied. The poll asked voters who they would vote for if the election was between the two of them.

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[–] vega208@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

AOC would slaughter vance, lol.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Shame AOC and Bernie could not hijack the Democratic Party like Krasnov did to the fucking GOP.

I wish her the best of luck if she decides to run and she would stomp on Vance.

[–] vega208@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 minutes ago

I blame suburbanites and another group of people we're not ever allowed to blame for anything ever no matter what.

They didn't want to pay more in taxes and it was 'her turn.'

This is why we have fascism.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 1 points 14 hours ago

...they'll run abbott, not vance...

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The DNC will use all their resources to sabotage her and place a Israeli loyalist that supports insider trading, forgiving the criminals in charge now, not reversing any of the shareholder first policies and deregulation and continuing to ratchet us to Nazi land while gaslighting us about how great the economy is because line go up for the capitalist class.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Part of the reason why social democracy is so important on the path to socialism is because line must go up for everyone or we’re totally screwed. I have no doubt the DNC will do whatever it can to undermine a candidate like AOC, but if we can implement a policy like Medicare for all, that will be a massive win for getting to the goal in more ways than one.

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[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ahh yes... The very free and fair 2028 elections we'll being having. The Republicans definitely won't try every trick in the book to manipulate them or stop them outright. Nevermind establishment Dems fucking over primaries to shoehorn in their milquetoast candidates, while fucking over actual progressives!

I am so looking forward to voting our way out of fascism/ a dictatorship, as has absolutely been exhibited to work multiple times through history.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My fucking neighbor has a Trump 2028 sticker right under his Israeli flag

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca -2 points 13 hours ago

You think you'll have elections again? Lmao

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 155 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just another example of how America is collapsing under the weight of its own corporate/oligarch dictatorship, corruption, ignorance, racism, and mental illness epidemic.

An intelligent, empathetic leader is basically tied with a traitorous, criminally sociopathic, con artist who possesses zero morals or ethics, and literally works for someone he previously called Hitler...

If the US weren't a failed state, Trump would be in prison and Vance would be a fucking nobody.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 35 points 1 day ago (5 children)

JD Vance has zero charisma, idk how he can be in the race but, well... Trump.

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[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

A hell of a lot needs to happen before AOC has a snowballs chance in hell in 2028. Like, Trumps impeachment — to start.

[–] vega208@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 minutes ago

AOC is one of the few candidates that would make me vote at all.

If the democrats nominate Newsom over AOC, then I will be voting for the republican in protest.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I had no idea who this JD Vance person was until he became trump's running mate. Dude you're not popular or interesting on your own. Don't act like people actually like you, couch fucking baby.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You've been flying blind. JD's been the spectre haunting American politics since the Obama Era. That creepy little turd's backed his way up the drainpipe of American politics with the help of everyone from James Dobson to Oprah. He's the Republicans' Hillary Clinton.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

He's a Peter Thiel project. They met when Vance was in either college or law school. Shillbilly never would have met any of those people without Thiel's help. Probably would never even have gotten a book deal trashing his family.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People didn't want Kamala because she wasn't democratically elected as the leader of the party in a primary so they let full blown fascism take over instead. They felt it was more important to send the Democrats a message instead of actually keeping some minimal form of democracy and freedom. 🙄

So they'll probably not vote for AOC if she becomes leader of the Democratic party anyway because of some minor excuse, like how she supported Israel's right to exist, or something. And the US will end up with a third Trump mandate.

I hope the US will prove me wrong. My hope in Americans doing the right thing is pretty low.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Kamala pr was so terrible that she lost because of the issue of economy and border protection

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (24 children)

JFC, "JD" "Vance" is about as appealing as a bucket of piss. How in the fuck is this even close?

I get it - AOC doesn't have a dong and so a lot of mouthbreathers rule her out on that alone. But still, Christ. This is the stupid bootlick that called Donvict a Nazi and is now his VP and sits there and chastises one of our allies like some kind of cartoon bully.

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Fuuuuck yes!!!!

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Vance won't be the candidate and everyone knows it but Vance.

I'd bet on Tucker Carlson. 🤢

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

It's going to be Donald Trump Jr. They won't even need to change the hats.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (18 children)

I'm all for a women president eventually, but perhaps the elections during an attempted fascist take over isn't the time.

Some men will simply not vote for a woman, it's sad, but it's reality. If a woman is on the ballot the democrats will lose again.

The time will come, just not yet with stakes this high. I would love to see AOC as the first female president.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (46 children)

Attitudes like yours are why Democrats lose elections. We talk ourselves out of our best candidates. We try to compromise with Republicans right out the gate, and try to select the more moderate 'electable' candidate.

Your line of thinking got us Kerry, Clinton, and Biden.

Trying to select a candidate based on "electability" is bullshit, because you just end up selecting for the most uninspiring centrist who can't get people to the polls.

You think you're selecting for winners, but you're taking your strongest pieces off the board.

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm still of the VERY strong opinion that Hillary and Kamala didn't lose because they were women, but because they were Hillary and Kamala.

I don't know, but maybe we shouldn't base our gender litmus test off of literally the most unlikeable women the DNC could have picked.

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