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Interesting...

video is on facebook. Note that the woman interviewed was just filming, not the woman that intervened.

The woman that intervened seems to be a serial advocate / complainant / irritant of public services. By physically intervening she escalated the situation more than the guards did.

Listening to the interview and watching the video, IMO the term of "Excessive force" is problematic.

I imagine that PTA policy is to remove commuters who are non-cooperative? That seems pretty clear cut to me. If someone is not complying with directions from PTA officers they ought to be removed.

Was the force used to remove these two excessive? I don't think so. No one was injured, there were no threats of harm, no one was pushed to the ground to be restrained. They were physically removed from the train against their will in as safe a manner as reasonably possible under the circumstances IMO.

Note that we don't know what happened in the alleged collision between the girl and the other commuter.

[โ€“] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For years i used to think PTA stood for 'Perth Transit Authority' not the 'Public Transport Authority'. I think my made up name is better, it says where it is, what it does, and its position. The use of 'Public' just makes me think there must also be a Private transport authority, and theres no consideration of their geographic remit.

[โ€“] Baku@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tbf, the network outside of Perth isn't exactly great, so calling them the "Perth transport authority" isn't too inaccurate

Depends what you're transporting. Humans, you're right, Iron Ore. I don't know thats got a pretty good transit system

[โ€“] trk@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sounds like an eshay and a bogan got their just desserts

[โ€“] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only thing that worries me a little here is the organisation is essentially marking it's own homework.

[โ€“] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah. If a member of the public makes a public accusation about a public institution step 1 is for that institution to undertake an internal investigation - which is what's happened here. I imagine that the complainant has received a notification regarding the conclusion of the investigation, which would include instructions on what to do if she is dissatisfied with the outcome.

Oh yeah, that makes sense. Like a progression in seriousness, not 1 to 1000 immediately.

[โ€“] Nath@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Newscorp doesn't have much of a toehold on Perth. As such, the word "eshay" just isn't a thing here. Yet.