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Good human.
Makes sense. Why not use infrastructure that's already available?
Because using proprietary standards puts you at the mercy of the technology owner
It was made an open standard about a year ago
Didn't know that, that's fine then
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex%3A32014L0094
There is a placed by law standard in the European Union, don't know if the US has the same.
because, from what I understnad, only the newest tesla chargers will support non-teslas charging, which is gonna leave a shitton of older chargers as tesla exclusive.
and overnight renders all the investment and infrastructure thats been built for J1772/CCS Type1/2 completely pointless and wasted effort almost overnight.
and overnight renders all the investment and infrastructure thats been built for J1772/CCS Type1/2 completely pointless and wasted effort almost overnight.
I could be mistaken, but I don't think it's that grim. J1772 will still be good for supporting vehicles and locations that don't support DC charging. Level 2 will continue to be useful for years since the grid doesn't support Level 3 charging just anywhere.
And CCS 1/2 will support NACS with relatively simple adapters as I understand it. Existing DC charging stations can simply replace their CCS 1/2 ends with NACS over time when they would be replaced for maintenance anyway, and perhaps provide adapters in the meantime.
I highly recommend this video from Technology Connections which changed my mind about this.
(To be fair, as an owner of a PHEV that can't use DC charging anyway it doesn't make much difference to me though.)
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That's disappointing. I can't wait to see how Musk attempts to screw with everyone once all major companies are using his "open" standard.
SAE is ratifying NACS as an automotive standard. Once that process is complete Musk won’t have control over it.
https://www.sae.org/news/press-room/2023/06/sae-international-announces-standard-for-nacs-connector
I believe Tesla has already released ownership of the NACS patent as well.
I'd bet anything he still tries something. Don't forget what an enormous moron he is.
I believe Tesla retained patents on their automatic payment system. So other cars can use the NACS, but they have to use a shitty app (which is currently a MAJOR problem with BEV chargers) because none of them have figured out how to install a credit card terminal on the dang things.
Exactly.
I'd be careful with making vehicles reliant on a fascist owned charging infrastructure.
The plug spec has been opened up, so we should see all infrastructure switch to this. Not just Tesla's superchargers. This is a good thing.
Wasn't that an early Tesla thing too, opening up tech so others could use it? I remember being like this is how the future will be.
They got me good.
Yeah. I bought a Tesla because they "opened their patents" https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you
This company has changed quite a bit from what it used to be. :(
My default is zero trust in muskovite. Hopefully all potential loopholes are closed!
Fuuuck, please keep everything on one standard. It's going to suck to have multiple plugs at every station, particularly since the official standard can scale like crazy :/