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I wish the average people realized this instead of bickering about which of their country is superior.
I wish people would stop disparaging others just because they happen to live in a particular country.
Guess what, a single person can't control everything their country does. Get over it.
Watching as over-personification continues to become the death of our species. We deserve an AI apocalypse in many ways at this point. maybe everyone will snap out of it before some theoretical grand tipping point towards certain “dystopian” outcomes will end up coming to pass, though probably not, especially at this rate which I have been seeing continue throughout this year, with regards to “consumer” and “professional” trends
The game's called "Earthbound", right?
Tho, I don't believe this is a dialogue from the game.
Yes it is
Gratuitous "the".
yeah needs to match on both sides either "the americans and the chinese" or "americans and chinese" not this weird othering mix.
To be fair, they’re not entirely equivalent. I wouldn’t bristle at all at being called “an American,” but I would never call someone “a Chinese.” In the plural form with a definite article, it doesn’t feel as bad, but I’d probably prefer to say “Chinese people,” whereas “American people” feels a little clunky, though it’s probably the best option if you want to keep both terms the same.
I don’t think this is necessarily a racist thing though, because I’d probably be fine saying “the French/ Congolese /Japanese*” and “Guatemalans/ Nigerians/ Tibetans/ Swedes.” Demonyms are definitely a weird area of language that feels biased when you see a direct comparison though.
*interestingly, I couldn’t think of a “new world” country where I would say “the+singular demonym,” but it does sound right for some tribal nations, like “the Hopi/Navajo.” I don’t think it’s uniform though, because “Pequots/Algonquins” sound much better than “the Pequot/Algonquin” to me and I’m not sure why.
Language is so weird tbh.
Like I'd feel comfortable saying I'm an American, but like "I'm a Chinese" sounds so like... gramatically wrong.
Like, idk if its the -ese suffix. Or ifs its because the term "Chinese" can be 中国人 (Chinese National)，华人 (Chinese Person (as in ethnicity))，中文 (Chinese Language)，中国的 (China's)，华裔 (Ethnic Chinese)，汉字 (Chinese Characters)... so it feels so like imprecise as a term, where as "I'm Chinese" is obviously refering to ethnicity (or nationality)
When someone say "the Chinese", like when they refer to China's success or failures, as in "the Chinese have managed to do XYZ", idk why, but I half expect the speaker to be subconciously racist for some reason... like I feel like that phrase is categorizing me into the CCP's decisions... like as if they're assuming I'm part of a monolith that doesn't have independent thoughts or something.
Maybe it's just me and I'm overthinking this weird grammer rules.
I would say “the Chinese invented many things in the last two millennia.” And “China is constantly posturing against Taiwan” to separate the people from their government.
“The Chinese” doesn’t have to be racist it can just include all the people of the region across all times. It can be a bit ignorant but doesn’t flag maliciousness
It's still generally Hopis and Navajos. Usually you see the "the" definite article added when it's referring to actual whole groups, example: "The Navajo (tribal govt or tribe as a whole) are fighting against X" as compared to "Navajos (people) are fighting against X"
I'm going to start using "the ameri*an"
We aren't bringing back "Chinamen" if that's what you're asking.
...I did type it, tho just to see how it looked.
Chinese would suffice.
Tell Xi I'm sorry. He'll have to wait for the .ml version.
Are you smoking crack? I'm sympathetic to your plight, but perhaps discussion and debate are less your forte than inhaling and seeing stars.
Yeah and pointing something out doesn't mean you're about to be served what your asking for due to your victim complex not being everyone else's problem.
I do believe you've lost the narrative.
Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature.
The Chinaman is not the issue dude.
And please Asian American is the preferred nomenclature
What do you mean by the second sentence 🤨
This is my gripe with tankies. One of the most salient points of 1984:
“It was now impossible for any human being to prove by documentary evidence that the war with Eurasia had ever happened.”
“Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.”
All war is fake except the class war.
I can only afford
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isn't china struggling with deflation nowadays, though? they can afford things perfectly well, they just don't do it
(correct me if i'm wrong i know fuck all about economics)
It‘s not going well for the average Chinese worker in recent years from what I‘ve heard. The pandemic and crumbling real estate market followed by countries diversifying their economies away from China (albeit slowly) and Trumps arbitrary trade war aren‘t good prospects for China. Xi Jinping‘s rhetoric in speeches went from „prosperity for all“ before the pandemic to „prosperity in moderation“ to essentially saying people shouldn‘t expect anything at all in his „eat bitter“ speech last year and that was before tariffs. Order books are empty and unemployment is rising just like it is in many places of the world right now to be honest. These are economically turbulent times and export economies are struggling when nobody can afford shit.
There was a YouTuber I like who went to view some of the new state of the art factories and they were operating at 1/6 capacity due to very low demand. The world economic terrorism trump is doing is making it tough out there for every country.
This post is misinformation.
Statistical Communiqué for 2024 on national economics by the National Bureau of Statistics of China:
"In 2024, the per capita disposable income nationwide was 41,314 yuan, an increase of 5.3 percent over that of the previous year or a real increase of 5.1 percent after deducting price factors"
Tell me how growing your disposable income by 5% a year is "not being able to afford anything"
41,314 yuan
So, in average they had 5k dollars to spend on everything that isn't food and rent... And you are proposing they are rich?
When you can get a fucking delicious and nutritious bowl of noodles and vegetables for 5 yuan or a metro/bus ride for 3 yuan in the USA let me know.
Yeah, people always seem to forget that it's about what you can purchase, not the $ amount. Similar to living in a city vs a rural area, the cost of food/housing varies widely even in the same country.
Noodles and bus rides
Truly you are part of the 1%
They take yuan in the USA now??? Opens my Bank of America app
How much money do you think the median American takes home these days with cost of living and suppressed wages? -2000 in credit card debt once the budget gets tallied?
23k dollars:
Umm do you want to break those numbers down for the bottom 75% or earners? Or the median? I believe that is just the billionaire holding up the statistic that the Fed is presenting. Also, those numbers were in billions representing the whole country not an individual in thousands…..
I'd expect the Chinese numbers to be way more skewed than the US ones. Too bad we can't rely on their statistics.
Either way, both numbers are for the average. The US one is for September, when it was still reliable; the Chinese one is certainly a gross overestimation, but for December, and we don't know if it moved up or down from there yet.
My aunt and uncle went on a state sponsored trip and got the impression that they have a stronger middle class than we do. From what I can piece together I’d tend to agree. But ya I guess we’ll know for sure with more hindsight.
Gotta love the two biggest economy’s in the world and you can’t find/trust good data
they have a stronger middle class than we do
They official numbers are worse than the US:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gini-coefficient-by-country
The problem is this is an easy thing to lie about, so their official numbers are certainly complete fabrications. And they still weren't bold enough to fabricate something that put them above the US.
Well considering we had a huge head start, I really don’t value the comparison that much anyway.
Let’s look at it a different way, is their middle class growing while ours is contracting? Let’s consider the trend and not the specific point in time.
Let's get them, boys! Haha just kidding. Am I? Yeah. Haha.
Ha.
It's been so fun seeing USians freak out at the remote prospect that they might have to live like people in other countries do. USians on Reddit spent the entire 2023 complaining about prices of Doordash delivery, and then they're also irked that games cost 60$ now. But cooking at home for a couple days instead of ordering pizza again? Not an option. “Ooh we have to work all day, we don't have time for cooking.” Well guess how people eat in other countries? They cook at home after work. Boo fucking hoo.
It's very funny how consistently ignorant you people are while you're putting on your "me smart and better than those silly Ameridumbs" act
Yeah, so ignorant, we even know how to cook. Unlike the enlightened USians who just have someone else cook for them every day and have yet another guy bring it. And are terrified of having to buy less junk.
Eww that's so 1980's though