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[–] Safeguard@beehaw.org 3 points 6 hours ago

They will try anything except copyright reform. Anything except looking at the cause of piracy...

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Denmark. Full honesty. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR GOVERNMENT?!

[–] raviiishing@sh.itjust.works 11 points 12 hours ago

Looks like all governments are moving in this direction, sadly.

It's pretty clear that oligarchs are all banding together to cement their hold on humanity.

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

It's too open and free to have morons like this minister running around spewing bs

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 13 hours ago
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 48 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

What the fuck is wrong with denmark? Chat control, and then this bullshit

[–] Anonymaus@feddit.org 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I doubt that has anything to do with it. The Danes are very upset about Americas plans to flat out annex Greenland and are taking Trumps repeated threats very seriously.

[–] Anonymaus@feddit.org 3 points 15 hours ago

I really hope so.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Cool, not having VPNs won't be a security problem for businesses and government agencies. /S

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 12 points 15 hours ago

Or any private citizen with a want or need for OPSEC.

[–] Businesskasper@feddit.org 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sure and then I want them to explain to the public why home office is forbidden now. And tell people that its very unfortunate but they aren't allowed to get there information from sources outside of the country. Great the people will love this.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don‘t see how home office got anything to do with it. It looks like they want to precisely ban certain end consumer VPNs. So unless your office forces you to use NordVPN to connect to their servers they shouldn‘t be affected.

That being said I also don‘t see how they want to enforce it without essentially building a firewall around their tiny country. It sounds like a ridiculous idea.

[–] mjr 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Home office is affected because customer private data can't be sent over unsecured public networks and it's rather difficult to work many jobs without that, so a VPN link between home office and HQ is needed and most businesses buy that in.

[–] richardwonka@mas.to 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

@mjr by “home office” you mean “working from home”? Because that has a distictly different meaning in many, if not most, English speaking countries.

[–] mjr 1 points 10 hours ago

Yes. Working from home, or home offices. Not the Home Office, which is what British often uses instead of Interior Ministry, but usually with "the" and capitals.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Again, it‘s not about those. Even the title should make that clear.

[–] mjr 1 points 10 hours ago

Care to explain how some of those wouldn't have been hit? Some businesses do indeed use NordVPN. We may have thoughts on that but they do.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's useless to enforce age verification without banning VPNs. This was inevitable and must have been planned.

What's the plan? I think they need tools to prevent unrest when the US, the Americas and Europe get tightly coupled to counter-balance China.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The US and the EU can counter balance China comfortably on their own if they really deem it necessary. I doubt that‘s the reason Denmark is going full surveillance state.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

What else could it be?

Btw, they still would need population control even if EU and US try to do it on their own. However Venezuela and other countries show that the US won't let South America be part of the multipolar world.

can counter balance China comfortably on their own

How? China has all the production capabilities and is just moments away from having the missing high precision tools.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 3 points 10 hours ago

What else could it be?

It could simply be the same basic authoritarian instinct shared by governments everywhere. We don't like this thing that's happening, therefore we pass a law saying it can't happen. Technical details of why that won't work are not important, and are probably invented by obstinate malcontents. Just do it.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The EU and the US are both economically stronger and more stable than China. Not to speak of the political and cultural power they have over most parts of the world. The US and the EU are individually bigger players on the global stage than China in most aspects. They wouldn‘t need to join forced to counter balance China. At least not going by numbers.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

From memory, the EU and China are 18% of global GDP, GB is 3%. The US is the biggest but by PPP China is already bigger.

China had a $1 trillion trade surplus. The US are forcing the EU to buy their gas. China is growing, the EU is shrinking.

To me that means it is a matter of years until China is clearly number one.

Won't the current power of EU and US become a liability when China can offer the former colonies to finally break free from their masters?

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

China will never be number one just like Japan didn‘t when they ran with a similar export model. They have much more massive looming economic challenges than we do. If anything, India will take their spot as the global factory.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago

Japan was stopped with the power of the dollar. China doesn't even have the dept to try that on China.

Which challenges does China have and why should India be able to take their spot?

[–] Anonymaus@feddit.org 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago

The US, China, and Russia are terrorist states.

[–] Foni@piefed.zip 5 points 16 hours ago

Politicians' ignorance about technology is dangerous. Trying to ban VPNs is the dumbest thing I've asked for in a long time.