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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I find it funny to watch these countries having issues with people not wanting to have babies.

There are core reasons behind this, one large one being "raising a child is expensive and all the world's money is being sucked up by billionaires, there is nothing left for children". Another one (for certain countries like Japan and South Korea) is the "work 80 hours a week and never see that family you're supposed to raise"

And governments go like "sooooo, if we cover child birth, you're good, right? What? Still nothing? We tried nothing and we're all out of ideas, how oh how can we solve this?"

Fuck the rich, end the rich. That will get births back to a healthy 2.1

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

officials have already expanded maternity leave benefits and housing subsidies to encourage couples to have more children.

Seems like they’re trying multiple things. Meanwhile we’re over here trying to say middle school kids can be paid less than minimum wage, operate dangerous machinery and work late on school nights. If you can’t afford kids, might as well exploit them

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

And then they help pay the roughly $15,000 usd per yr per child it costs to raise a child right?

Becauae it would be really bad if China helped pay for a ton of kids to be born that can't be provided for.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

Kids can pull themselves up by the bootstraps... factories are hiring...

/s

[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

This seems like overcompensating for the child limit. Are they going to be like a yoyo, swinging from one extreme to the other until they find a balance, like all things should be?

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

No country has increased birth rates sustainably without major coersion. China is still using soft coercion and offering incentives.

[–] tym@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

the ROI is they get future foot soldiers

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

They already have a glut of military aged males with no marriage prospects, if they were serious about invading Taiwan, they could only do it now (also aligns with the fact that America has become more isolationist, Japan hasn't a serious standing army yet etc.)

If they are planning for the future, it's not military, it's societal.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

It's great, but I had kind of assumed it was already in place.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (32 children)

Desperation?

People don't want to have kids. I wonder why. Remember the laying flat movement and the 996 culture.

I wonder why.

If only there was an actual solution to this LOLOL....

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