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[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)
  1. Shows and sitcoms don't portray mundane life, they portray what people want to see, not perfect, but not reality either. Similarly to how "backdrop" style in mall buildings and such isn't normal life. It's glossier, even if not palace-like.

  2. USA. The country that is known elsewhere as having been filthy rich relatively to the rest of the world those years.

  3. The "normal" good life was, yes, more common. But that life was also more labor, it required you to know how to fix your shoes and clocks and wiring and plumbing, even if you'd be able to call plumbers and electricians, - because calling someone to do a job wasn't what it is now, you didn't have the Internet and aggregators and contact centers.

  4. There were no Google. You'd do more work on decisions and relationships, and every action would be more unique. Cost you more and give you more. You still can find such life for yourself. You will be happier, but it will be harder. Of course, you won't change the economy in general.

  5. Stolen ... Well, what are you going to do about it? Your life is approaching what's normal elsewhere (still bigger living spaces, bigger food portions and more pretentious communication are normal in the USA as compared to Europe). I agree that things becoming worse are, ahem, not good. So what will you do?

I'm reading Saint-Exupery's "Citadel" now, and he's right about one thing, just sharing everything equally is not the way to improve your life or anyone else's. Happiness will follow work leading to something. You feel happier when participating in building a railway bridge, not so much when making a restaurant's website. Level of life, I think, follows happiness. It's not about what the society as a whole has, it's about bravery and ability to dream of all people in it.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I was a whipper snapper you could go to the two screen movie theater that got the movies once they left the new theater and watch a double feature matinee for a dollar. But not if you had an onion in your belt.

[–] UnrefinedChihuahua@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why not? It was the fashion at the time.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At that point, it became to them as a child yelling "6 7" has come to us.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not sure about you but when i hear "6, 7" i make the hand gesture and smile.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...there's a hand gesture?

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

There is, indeed. It's an important part of the meme. One could even be attribute the gesture to catalyzing the memeification in the first place.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You know a sitcom that could realistically contrast the two lifestyles could be interesting

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Al Bundy supported a house full of degeneracy in a shoe salesman's salary.

[–] justaman123@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Imagine living Al Bundys life slinging shoes at Foot Locker

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[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Growing up, it was very possible for ONE minimum wage worker to be able to afford a mortgage on a modest home in my city.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You could work part-time in a retail shop while paying for an apartment and college.

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[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

For white people in the imperial core

Keep downvoting, sorry the truth hurts that your parents only had those privileges from raping the rest of the world

[–] rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What are you calling the imperial core? No one uses that term in the US. I have no idea what you're talking about.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yep, sounds like an average USAian.

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[–] dontpanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago

*for some demographics

[–] BattleGrown@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago

That's the supply side story. Nobody tells the demand side story. If every family could do it, they wouldn't be able to. Prices were low because not everyone could do it. You live in a capitalist society. Learn economics, don't be a sucker.

And the people who didn’t have kids got Ferraris! Where the fuck is my Ferrari?

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Comparing then to now is hard. I don't doubt workers were compensated better when unions were stronger but it's an apples to oranges thing. Off the top of my head: Multiple generations lived in a single house that was much smaller. Households shared a single car. Most had a single television set that picked up 6 channels. One phone per household. Calling a couple towns over was expensive. Family vacations were within driving distance. Photographs were expensive. Video nonexistent. Eating out was a rare treat

[–] groet@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People were so poor in 2025. Most households didnt even have multiple VR headsets. And those most had only remote controled lighting in one room. So poor.

The multi-gen household fact is simply not true for many places, same as the size of the houses. The number of cars and phones and TVs are all a result of the same thing. They never needed a second one. You don't need two cars if only one person is working and is home early enough to finish erands after work. Photographs, travel distance, Videos, that's all technological change. They couldn't afford it because it don't exist in a consumer form.

That doesn't change the fact that the high standard of living of that time was affordable while the high standard of living of today isn't affordable.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Multi generations in a house was certainly a thing though it varies depending on what decade you're talking about. The houses definitely were smaller as were the yards. Look at the new construction now, there are no modest sized homes being built then drive through an older neighborhood. There is simply no comparison. My aunts and uncles all shared bedrooms.. Rarely did houses have more than one bathroom. Nobody had central air conditioning not homes, not schools. Plenty of teenagers have cars these days though they're still in school. Nobody walks or rides bikes unless they're electric. Most people are overweight and plenty of young folks are diabetic. Those factory jobs that everyone thinks were so great? They were often dangerous before OSHA and unhealthy before the EPA. My older neighbors in Cleveland told me about the soot from the nearby steel mills. BTW those jobs were plentiful until recently where I live. They're miserable places to work still. They'll make you work 6-7 days a week, 10-12 hours a day. My sister just got fired from one making $25 an hour, she lost a similar job year ago. Everyone is doing Adderall to cope, management looks the other way.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Multiple generations lived in a single house that was much smaller.

is there any source on this? Especially it being smaller. Because a lot of single-family houses (especially rural) more than a century ago very really big, because they were essentially small farms.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Drive through older neighborhoods and look for yourself. Also you can look up real estate property info on most county websites in the US. They'll tell you square feet and also the year built. Builders these days don't build reasonably sized homes unfortunately. I wonder if cities don't want them because it'll attract lower income folks. As for multi generations in the same home, I recently had a subscription to Ancestry.com and could see all the people living in one house as was recorded in the census data. Families had more kids too.

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Builders these days don't build reasonably sized homes unfortunately. I wonder if cities don't want them because it'll attract lower income folks.

The economies of scale of setting up a job site, lining up all the contractors' schedules, getting all the materials and equipment in place, plus the paperwork of permitting, inspections, etc., mean that each additional square foot/meter of space is much, much cheaper than the first. That just naturally pushes towards bigger single family homes.

Multifamily is different, though, which is why many multifamily buildings gravitate towards 1- or 2-bedroom units.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A lot of those rural homes had an addition with each generation. Most families lived in 1200sq ft or less. The average size of a home has risen pretty dramatically.

[–] justaman123@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Of course back then home only needed to be a place to sleep and eat and bathe. The rest of your life happened outside the home

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