The US is a malign actor for the US as well. Our government has become a danger to our own citizens.
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They have always been. It's now just impossible to ignore.
Imagine ruining 250 years of a successful democracy so you can line you and your friends pockets with filthy lucre while having sex with tweens. That guy stands for nothing and most of america has lost it's ability to feel shame or have any empathy. Both human traits.
250 years of a successful democracy
Lmfao. Jim Crow was a successful democracy? Literal slave ownership before that? Invasion of Iraq was successful Democracy? Bombing of Vietnam?
I agree. There is always something dark in most histories of anything and everything. The good old usa did a lot of dirty shit under the guise of their 250 year old successful democracy. Don't confuse goodness and justice with democracy.
The successful democracy that couldn't ever implement the overwhelmingly popular universal healthcare?
Still the bad joke of the world here.
Biggest prison population, most "asset forfeiture", most chemically polluted "food" supply, paying the most for worst healthcare, relatively non-existent public transport, hegemonic oligarchy pretending to be democracy spreading democracy by "regime change", "education" system indoctrinating insularity and ignorance,
[Edit + these the LLM added for me because it's an exhausting list to manually write] mass shootings as a cultural pastime, student debt as a life sentence, "freedom" measured in gun ownership but not in healthcare access, military budget bigger than the next ten countries combined, "infrastructure week" as a recurring punchline, two-party system that’s just one party with two heads, "justice" system that’s a revolving door for the rich and a trapdoor for the poor, "American Dream" now just a subscription service with hidden fees, [Edit: and the list can go on for at least twice as long again yet.]
and a corporate monopoly media to bind peoples minds by.
... "land of the free", "USA number one!".
XD
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The triumph of disinformation, greed, and self-centered ultraconservatism; a country about to implode.
It could come to your country too unless you take action. I see so many other countries making the same mistakes we do here and it makes me so sad knowing that this could be their fate too unless they make different decisions.
The truth is I notice in Europe they too in my opinion haven't done enough to combat disinformation for sure they're better than we are but it's not enough.
What we need is for every child to be taught as much as possible about critical thinking, propaganda and disinformation. The quality of education children get is super important. In addition I believe emotional resilience must be taught in schools somehow.
Please for everyone reading this contact your politicians or your school board and demand more done to combat disinformation.
Also remember we are all in this together. Look at all the Trump copycats there are in the world. Look at how Trump learned from Hungary and Russia. Because they were not stopped in one country they feel safe doing it in another. We as people must support each other and stand up for each other when bad things are happening somewhere because when something bad happens to someone else it could one day be you it happens to.
It could come to your country too unless you take action.
I'm in a developing country already out of the shadow of a gun-toting jackass who nearly sold us out to China, no thanks to disinformation, and currently having to deal with politicians and businessmen ripping off the government in infrastructure money.
The US may soon have the hardest fall unless something drastic happens.
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Shshshsh!
This is UMURIKA!
You're supposed to blame everything wrong on "the left", or, "commies".
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The real shock to Americans will be when they discover this can't be fixed.
Americans want to believe that relations will return to normal once the democrats are back in power. But, they don't understand that the loss of trust in the US is permanent. Sure, if the democrats take back power and want to negotiate trade deals, other countries may sign them. They're just not going to believe that the US can be trusted to honour the terms of those trade deals, and will structure the deals accordingly. Trump's 2 terms show that a treaty signed by the US is meaningless, because a president like Trump can come along and just rip it up. They've also showed that support for someone Trump-like is close enough to 50% that it can easily happen again.
The momentum of international trade, and the vast power the US wields means that there won't be a sudden cutting off of the US. But, bit by bit, even former staunch allies are going to start slowly pivoting away from the US whenever possible no matter who's elected and how big a landslide it is.
that is what russia/putin achieved with KRASNOV. who do you think is the real backers of P2025 is,. the smart ones already fleeing a sinking ship that is US, scientists/ MD in specialities, but not for any degree lower than that
Trump has ripped up or tried to cancel deals he made in his first term. Why any nation would bother to negotiate with the US right now is beyond me. Nothing can be trusted from this administration or any one to come
Why any nation would bother to negotiate with the US right now is beyond me
It's because they don't really have a choice. If it were say, Australia, that had gone off the rails, they could just be ignored. But, the US is still such a central part of the world's economy, and there are so many important companies based out of the US, that it's not possible just to pull the plug. In addition, if countries didn't negotiate with Trump he might see it as a slight and send in the navy to interdict "drug boats" or something.
This also makes things look like they're better than they are. People see trade deals being negotiated and think "well, if that's happening, then things aren't that far gone. The reality is that countries used to negotiate trade deals with the US because, even when they felt they were being pressured to cave to US demands, they could at least count on the US to more-or-less honour the terms of the deal when it was done. I think countries are now dealing with the US because they have to, but they're really just going through the motions, not expecting that the result will actually be a binding agreement.
About nations not having a choice there is truth to that but I want to focus on something nations can do to. Study in particular which companies support Trump the most and work to find replacements for those. For example the fossil fuel industry is a significant backer of Trump and Republicans. This means countries who are rightfully upset about Trump and buy fossil fuels from the US should make switching to renewable energy a huge priority maybe even do it at cost or subsidize the transition. This means fossil fuel companies will have less money and less to give to Republicans.
Also for people who live in blue states contact your state politicians and demand a faster transition to renewables too.
Good. Obviously it was wrong to trust the US this entire time. It’s time to dismantle the post-WW2 American dominance over the world, and move toward a more multilateral future. This process feels scary and might be quite difficult, but it’s important and it’s time. No one country should be considered the world’s policeman or supreme authority. I just hope that everyone shaking their head at the US realizes that they can only sit there doing that for so long, because the very next thing they need to urgently do is step the fuck up into that leadership vacuum before dictators do.
Will it really be a multilateral future though? Or will it be a Chinese future?
A multilateral future would be great, but multilateral alliances aren't very stable. Just look at how Orban is disrupting what the EU wants to do, even though Hungary is a relatively small and weak country in Europe. Or, look how toothless European regulations are when Ireland just refuses to enforce things like the GDPR, so the tech companies just declare themselves as Irish.
Meanwhile China seems very unified and their mixture of a command economy and a market economy has been very effective so far. I don't think the Chinese model is all bad. They've been massively effective at doing things like building high speed rail, developing and deploying solar panels, etc. OTOH, the Great Firewall and CCTV state is not how I would like to live.
Without the US, I don't know how well the rest of the world will be able to resist China. I think Australia might be the canary in the coal mine. I think China considers Australia to be in its sphere of influence and will try to put more and more pressure on it. Australia's outlook on the world is much more similar to Europe, but it's geographically really far away.
Americans do not take the situation seriously. They either think they have no power to personally fix it, so contributing to any effort is pointless, or that it's just more of the same politics as before and can't tell the difference. They are encouraged to stay out of the way because they are the only force that seems to be capable of stopping it at this point.
Once Trump and the GOP destroy the framework of power the constitution defines, there are no rules anymore, only power, and the constitution really does mean nothing. The relationship America built with the world since WW1 will be over and won't return as democratic nations can not remain interdependent with a fascist America. America will be another authoritarian regime using violence as the solution to every problem, including domestic problems. Those problems will only increase because an authoritarian leadership is functionally incapable of managing a non-authoritarian system. America will transition, painfully and violently, to a fascist state and the dream that was America will be dead. All at the hands of a TV show personality and the generations raised by TV, which is both sad and painfully American.
Edit: Not enough Americans...
I take it seriously and I encourage anyone to know they have the power to make a difference. If you can find who's encouraging people to stay out of the way please let everyone here know so we can fight against those people.
Also you're right if Trump stays in power longer it will be very grim not just for the people in the US but also for the entire world because look at how Trump is terrorizing other countries. Look at how he's basically a slave to Putin and abandoning Ukraine. Look at how he's grabbing people on the streets. If we don't fight this will get worse.
Maybe the US won't become fascist. Maybe the democrats will win in a landslide and reform things so that no rogue president can do what Trump did ever again.
But, even in that unlikely scenario, the trust the world had with the US has already been burned, and isn't coming back easily. It's obvious that other countries might try to avoid doing deals with a corrupt, fascist USA. But, what's less obvious is that thanks to Trump, countries also won't want to do deals with an apologetic, democratic, tolerant, liberal, honest USA. That USA can get voted out of office and replaced with a fascist in just one election cycle, and all the deals mean nothing when that happens.
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They’re just not going to believe that the US can be trusted
Yup. The damage to the American brand is permanent, and that will become painfully clear when the post-tariff trade deals take effect within the next year and a half and trade routes itself around the US rather than through it.
The worst part is it won't affect Donald in any meaningful way, because his perception of reality is wedded to his algorithm and his wealth makes him untouchable.
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Bruh, for most of the US the US is a malign actor.
No no, just keep chanting "USA! Number one!" more often again. That'll mend it. LOL. Or at least just give us all a good laugh at you. Always funny when you guys do that. Like "this is fine" wasn't strong enough.
I hear you. This isn’t fine.
However those of us that are not willing to give up and let MAGA and the Claremont conservatives win should not cede patriotism. Symbols are important.
It’s our country and it is great because people stood up and defended it.
Now is our turn to defend freedom.
The MAGA peeps are not your tyrant to overthrow. They're people with the same principle you espouse with:
It’s our country and it is great because people stood up and defended it.
Now is our turn to defend freedom.
The sooner people realise that, the better, for ceasing falling for pitchforks vs torches, and realising the man behind the curtain; realising the emperor wears no clothes.
This is no time for pitchforks vs torches.
Spread the word. Stop falling for it.
The lesser-consequence differences that divide you are trumped up by your oppressor, to keep you divided and conquered. Stop falling for it. Unite for freedom. Stop uniting with authoritarian curated divisive groupthink. Every little of this helps.
For most of the world, capital is a malign actor and the US has the highest concentration.
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Thanks to MAGA, the 1st World views the USA on the same level as Russia, China and their allies. The article is spot on in regard to the future.
I think they are deliberately trying to anger and not just being incompetent.
Why are they doing this? There's money to be made with this somehow, and it has to be a LOT of money, so obviously the USA is planning to fuck them over financially in some bigly fashion.
Seizing every nation's accounts would be my best guess, but I thought Trump would lose so what do I know.
IDK, it seems almost transparent to me those in control of the US are doing a racketeering-like thing to solicit bribes, and doing whatever whoever bribes them the most wants. They aren't thinking on a national level, just personal; and would burn the US or any other country to the ground to gain more power and wealth.
Dong ding ding! The US went from being a covert to an overt kleptocracy. Now you know what it's like to live in the Balkans during the 90s.
if only the blue states will balkanize.
This time tho we're keeping the nukes.
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Speaking as an American I expect to be fucked by this for the rest of my life (and rightfully so) if one jackass getting put in office can fuck things up this badly we shouldn't be trusted as an ally or trade partner. There's a lot of work to be done to ensure this can't happen again and I don't believe it will ever happen. At least not anytime soon. We are at the peak (I hope) of the weakest of weak men times.
A public display to the world, say like the Nuremberg Trials 2.0 for the Trump admin would be helpful.
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if one jackass getting put in office
Twice. TWICE!!
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No shit. Ostracize the hellhole.
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