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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. This was a bit late - I was too busy goofing around on Discord)

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Introducing the Palantir shit sandwich combo: Get a cover up for the CEO tweaking out and start laying the groundwork for the AGI god's priest class absolutely free!

https://mashable.com/article/palantir-ceo-neurodivergent

TL;DR- Palantir CEO tweaks out during an interview. Definitely not any drugs guys, he's just neurodivergent! But the good, corporate approved kind. The kind that has extra special powers that make them good at AI. They're so good at AI, and AI is the future, so Palantir is starting a group of neurodivergents hand picked by the CEO (to lead humanity under their totally imminent new AI god). He totally wasn't tweaking out. He's never even heard of cocaine! Or billionaire designer drugs! Never ever!


Edit: To be clear, no hate against neurodivergence, or skepticism about it in general. I'm neurodivergent. And yeah, some types of neurodivergence tend to result in people predisposed to working in tech.

But if you're the fucking CEO of Palantir, surely you've been through training for public appearances. It's funnier that it didn't take, but this is clearly just an excuse.

I strongly feel that it's an attempt to start normalizing the elevation of certain people into positions of power based off vague characteristics they were born with.

Lemmy post that pointed me to this: https://sh.itjust.works/post/51704917

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Merriam-Webster’s human editors have chosen slop as the 2025 Word of the Year. We define slop as “digital content of low quality that is produced usually in quantity by means of artificial intelligence.” All that stuff dumped on our screens, captured in just four letters: the English language came through again.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/word-of-the-year?2025-share

[–] yellowcake@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

did they use ai to make the image? "wood of of year"

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

An academic sneer delivered through the arXiv-o-tube:

Large Language Models are useless for linguistics, as they are probabilistic models that require a vast amount of data to analyse externalized strings of words. In contrast, human language is underpinned by a mind-internal computational system that recursively generates hierarchical thought structures. The language system grows with minimal external input and can readily distinguish between real language and impossible languages.

[–] corbin@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sadly, it's a Chomskian paper, and those are just too weak for today. Also, I think it's sloppy and too Eurocentric. Here are some of the biggest gaffes or stretches I found by skimming Moro's $30 book, which I obtained by asking a shadow library for "impossible languages" (ISBN doesn't work for some reason):

book review of Impossible Languages (Moro, 2016)

  • Moro claims that it's impossible for a natlang to have free word order. There's many counterexamples which could be argued, like Arabic or Mandarin, but I think that the best counterexample is Latin, which has Latinate (free) word order. On one hand, of course word order matters for parsers, but on the other hand the Transformers architecture attends without ordering, so this isn't really an issue for machines. Ironically, on p73-74, Moro rearranges the word order of a Latin phrase while translating it, suggesting either a use of machine translation or an implicit acceptance of Latin (lack of) word order. I could be harsher here; it seems like Moro draws mostly from modern Romance and Germanic languages to make their points about word order, and the sensitivity of English and Italian to word order doesn't imply a universality.
  • Speaking of universality, both the generative-grammar and universal-grammar hypotheses are assumed. By "impossible" Moro means a non-recursive language with a non-context-free grammar, or perhaps a language failing to satisfy some nebulous geometric requirements.
  • Moro claims that sentences without truth values are lacking semantics. Gödel and Tarski are completely unmentioned; Moro ignores any sort of computability of truth values.
  • Russell's paradox is indirectly mentioned and incorrectly analyzed; Moro claims that Russell fixed Frege's system by redefining the copula, but Russell and others actually refined the notion of building sets.
  • It is claimed that Broca's area uniquely lights up for recursive patterns but not patterns which depend on linear word order (e.g. a rule that a sentence is negated iff the fourth word is "no"), so that Broca's area can't do context-sensitive processing. But humans clearly do XOR when counting nested negations in many languages and can internalize that XOR so that they can handle utterances consisting of many repetitions of e.g. "not not".
  • Moro mentions Esperanto and Volapük as auxlangs in their chapter on conlangs. They completely fail to recognize the past century of applied research: Interlingue and Interlingua, Loglan and Lojban, Láadan, etc.
  • Sanskrit is Indo-European. Also, that's not how junk DNA works; it genuinely isn't coding or active. Also also, that's not how Turing patterns work; they are genuine cellular automata and it's not merely an analogy.

I think that Moro's strongest point, on which they spend an entire chapter reviewing fairly solid neuroscience, is that natural language is spoken and heard, such that a proper language model must be simultaneously acoustic and textual. But because they don't address computability theory at all, they completely fail to address the modern critique that machines can learn any learnable system, including grammars; they worst that they can say is that it's literally not a human.

[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 4 points 3 days ago

Plus, natural languages are not necessarily spoken nor heard; sign language is gestured (signed) and seen and many, mutually-incompatible sign languages have arisen over just the last few hundred years. Is this just me being pedantic or does Moro not address them at all in their book?

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

just came across a wild banger:

(An aside — In their official docs, Apple refers to the menu bar always in lowercase, because it’s just a menu bar. The ‘desktop’ is the same way. This is interesting, because we live in an era where everything is a branded product whose name is a proper noun– see the Dock– and we are not allowed to merely use things, we are forced to experience using them and you legally can’t ‘experience’ a regular ‘ol noun. Everybody knows it’s gotta be a proper noun in order to be experienced. The Las Vegas Demon Orb Experience. The Microsoft Windows Desktop Experience. The ESPN Experience Brought To You By Sports Gambling. The 6th Street Hostel Bathroom Experience. But our friends “menu bar” and “desktop” are just two things, average, normal, unobtrusive. This says something about how the people who created these things thought about them.)

[–] chaos@beehaw.org 6 points 3 days ago

I wish this attitude was more pervasive at Apple, my phone actually autocorrects to "Lock Screen" when I type it out in lower case.

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 10 points 4 days ago

Here’s a substack post (sorry) with a quote I found both neat and pretty funny:

Integrity comes from the Latin "integer," meaning whole or complete. A person with integrity is "whole" in the sense that their words, actions, and values are unified rather than fragmented or contradictory. They understand themselves; they have integrated the warring parts of themselves; and they respect and act on the values that their parts can agree upon.

Rationalists in shambles

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

More on datacenters in space

https://andrewmccalip.com/space-datacenters

N.B. got this via HN, entire site gives off "wouldn't it be cool" vibes (author "lives and breathes space" IRONIC IT'S A VACUUM

Also this is the only thermal mention

Thermal: only solar array area used as radiator; no dedicated radiator mass assumed

riiiiight....

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I also enjoy :

Radiation/shielding impacts on mass ignored; no degradation of structures beyond panel aging

Getting high-powered electronics to work outside the atmosphere or the magnetosphere is hard, and going from a 100 meter long ISS to a 4 km long orbital data center would be hard. The ISS has separate cooling radiators and solar panels. He wants LEO to reduce the effects of cosmic rays and solar storms, but its already hard to keep satellites from crashing into something in LEO.

Possible explanation for the hand waving:

I love AI and I subscribe to maximum, unbounded scale.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He knows the promo rate on the maximum, unbounded scale subscription is gonna run out eventually, right?

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

promo rate

And if you check the fliers, if you subscribe to premium California Ideology you get maximum unbounded scale for free!^1^ Read those footnotes and check Savvy Shopper so you don't over pay for your beliefs!

^1^ Offer does not apply to housing, public transit, or power plants

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 3 days ago

"Your mother shubscribed to makshimum, unbounded shcale last night, Trebek."

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Author works for something called Varda Space (guess who is one of the major investors? drink. Guess what orifice the logo looks like? drink) and previously tried to replicate a claimed room-temperature superconductor https://www.wired.com/story/inside-the-diy-race-to-replicate-lk-99/

Some interesting ethnography of private space people in California: "People jump straight to hardware and hand-wave the business case, as if the economics are self-evident. They aren't. "

Page uses that "electrons = electricity" metonymy that prompt-fonding CEOs have been using

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago

The electrons is turning into an annoying shibboleth. Also going to age oddly if more light based components really kick off. (Ran into somebody who is doing some phd work on that, or at least that is what I got from the short description he gave).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Him fellating musk re tesla is funny considering the recent stories about reliability abd how the market is doing. And also the roadster 2, and the whole pivot to ai/ROBOTS!

(The author being positive on the theoretical SpaceX going public vs a little bit later the reactions of the spacex subreddit on Musk actually saying they will go public later is a funny split of opinions. The subreddit saw it as a betrayal https://bsky.app/profile/niedermeyer.online/post/3ma4hvbajns2d).

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Why is my home directory gone Claude?

See that ~/ at the end? That's your entire home directory.

This just keeps happening...

Previously, Previously Previously

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 4 days ago

Sir a NaNth deletion has hit the home directory.

[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Screenshot of reddit comments. Some terms in users' comments have become links with a magnifying glass icon next to them.

Oh god, reddit is now turning comments into links to search for other comments and posts that include the same terms or phrases.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

it shows up only when logged out

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A few people on bsky were claiming that at least reddit is still good re the AI crappification, and they have no idea what is coming.

[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wonder when those people started using reddit. I started in 2012 and it already felt like a completely different (and generally worse) experience several times over before the great API fiasco.

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[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You see, tilde marks old versions of files, so Claude actually made you a favour by freeing some disk space

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

……snrk

iykyk. this comment is sublime

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago

i would say "backups" but these kind of people don't do backups. either way nothing of value was lost

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 4 days ago

~/? More like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] nfultz@awful.systems 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://kevinmd.com/2025/12/why-ai-in-medicine-elevates-humanity-instead-of-replacing-it.html h/t naked capitalism

Throughout my nearly three decades in family medicine across a busy rural region, I watched the system become increasingly burdened by administrative requirements and workflow friction. The profession I loved was losing time and attention to tasks that did not require a medical degree. That tension created a realization that has guided my work ever since: If physicians do not lead the integration of AI into clinical practice, someone else will. And if they do, the result will be a weaker version of care.

I feel for him, but MAYBE this isn't a technical issue but a labor one; maybe 30 years ago doctors should have "led" on admin and workflow issues directly, and then they wouldn't need to "lead" on AI now? I'm sorry Cerner / Epic sucks but adding AI won't make it better. But, of course, class consciousness evaporates about the same time as those $200k student loans come due.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Why do they think they are going to have any input in genAI development either way?

Anyway seeing a previous wave of shit burden you with a lot of unrelated work after deployment isnt the best reason to now start burdening yourself with a lot of unrelated work before the new wave of shot is here. But sure good luck learning how LLMs work mathematically Kevin.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Somebody wrote an article that seems to be especially designed to piss people like us off. https://testdouble.com/insights/anyone-can-code-software-is-having-its-ratatouille-moment

I saw it and I'm spreading my pain around. (As an additional bonus, the site jumps back upwards in the text for me constantly).

[–] yellowcake@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago

Dave Mosher is a Principal Consultant at Test Double, and has experience in legacy modernization, agentic coding, and explaining CORS poorly to people who didn't ask.

What legitimate experience does he possess? I can only assume legacy modernization means throw spaghetti microservice buzzword architecture at the client. And he admits he doesn't really know CORS. I see these blogs about how LLMs are so much better than humans for programming yet never written by someone who has put together anything more complex and bigger scale than their myspace page in '05.

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not even one paragraph in and I already see an "it's not X, its Y".

When I look at the cast, I don't just see a rat and a bunch of chefs. I see the archetypes of our modern tech landscape

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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Oh god, I'd be so happy to see these people prove their point by actually shipping stuff that works instead of sitting in the corner throwing insults at how everyone else is dumb and are going to be left behind any day now.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 4 days ago

John Scalzi:

I search my name on a regular basis, not only because I am an ego monster (although I try not to pretend that I’m not) but because it’s a good way for me to find reviews, end-of-the-year “best of” lists my book might be on, foreign publication release dates, and other information about my work that I might not otherwise see, and which is useful for me to keep tabs on. In one of those searches I found that Grok (the “AI” of X) attributed to one of my books (The Consuming Fire) a dedication I did not write; not only have I definitively never dedicated a book to the characters of Frozen, I also do not have multiple children, just the one.

https://whatever.scalzi.com/2025/12/13/ai-a-dedicated-fact-failing-machine-or-yet-another-reason-not-to-trust-it-for-anything/

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago (4 children)
[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

tf is jai

Why is Jai ground-breaking? Jai is so important because it is an effort to build a modern systems programming language from the ground up by a very gifted and experienced developer.

programmers. programmers never change.

With his knowledge of all C/C++ shortcomings, he rethought every one of these problems to give them an easier to use, more elegant and more performant solution. In this way Jai really is a better and modern day C, and also a C++ done right.

"14 competing 'modern take on C' languages? Ridiculous! We need to develop one definitive alternative that fixes all the problems with C++"

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 11 points 3 days ago

a very gifted and experienced developer.

Don't forget the most crucial part. The very gifted and experienced developer ... is Jonathan Blow.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Getting mad because developers have not had time to update a piece of code that wraps another piece of code and blaming it on the language is in interesting choice.

Telling a whole project 'your language sucks you should rewrite it in my pet language' is always a nice classic of the nerd genre. (Happy I never got a big language hangup like that. (Apart from a short bit of a dislike of functional programming languages, but that was just due to a bad early experience)).

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago

who tf is zerophase (apart from a lunduke fan)

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Purdue mandating AI to graduate: https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/2025/Q4/purdue-unveils-comprehensive-ai-strategy-trustees-approve-ai-working-competency-graduation-requirement/

I'm looking for the actual curricula / docs signed off by the trustees. Looks like another domino falls.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 4 days ago

Purdue and Google recently expanded their strategic partnership, emphasizing the importance of public-private partnerships that are essential to accelerating innovation in AI.

https://www.purdue.edu/ai/

Translation: somebody's getting paid off

🎶 Money makes the world go 'round 🎶

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago

I learned yesterday that Helsinki’s uni is also on the list: prompts not only tolerated, but encouraged

been starting to wonder whether these are like the google etc plays there: “suuuuure you can get a sweetheart deal for our systems” [5y later and much storage on the expensive rentabox] “hey btw we’re renewing prices, your contracts are going up 400%. oh and also taking data out of the system is $20/TB. just..in case you wanted to try”

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