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[–] Unleaded8163@fedia.io 172 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Hmm... What's eating Windows' lunch? Oh "Unknown" and "Other". Cool.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 53 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If they're basing this off browser user agents like a third of my traffic at least is random Chinese ips and requests with Chinese language in the headers.

All of them would be flagged as unknown by the major user agent parsing libraries.

None of the sure I work with have any Chinese content or content remotely useful for Chinese people, so it's scrapers.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 37 points 3 months ago

From the FAQ:

Statcounter is a web analytics service. Our tracking code is installed on more than 1.5 million sites globally. These sites cover various activities and geographic locations. Every month, we record billions of page views to these sites. For each page view, we analyse the browser/operating system/screen resolution used and we establish if the page view is from a mobile device.

So yeah, they’re basing of browser user agents.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can it be fingerprint spoofers skewing the results? In that case the data is worthless.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

Most people don't fake agent strings but the bots sure do.

The actual thing obscured by this graph is the amount of users. Most people use mobile devices now and companies are incentivized to use apps there instead of actual desk top machines.

[–] yessikg@fedia.io 13 points 3 months ago

That's probably Linux too

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I think it's pretty clear from this graph that the macOS is eating their lunch, and to a lesser extent, Linux.

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[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 148 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The Year of the Unknown Desktop

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don’t know
We don’t know.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 11 points 3 months ago

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where...

You get the idea

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What do we know about
The unknown knowns
The things we don't know we know?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

You'll have to ask Donald Rumsfeld.

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Like instinctual stuff you haven't experienced yet, I guess.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

You know exactly how Greek fire was made. You just don't know that you know the exact recipe for the ultimate naval weapon. Yes, you in particular. Tell us.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago

Seeing macOS go down, it seems to me, new macOS is masking

[–] DelnitaCrane@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Everything going down or steady except "Unknown"

I don't care who wins, I care that Windows loses

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[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What the hell happened in Jan 2023

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 4 points 3 months ago

That’s what I want to know too! Did Windows blip out of existence in the UK for a month or something?

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (4 children)

The unknown is actually a niche OS they put on all the smart dildo and sex toys they make now. True story. ✌️

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

Teledildonics has been a promising technology for several years.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

And yes, you CAN run Doom on it. But turns out it's not a great idea

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

I'm colour blind so there's basically only three colours on this graph but what I'm assuming is showing is that windows is decreasing in popularity and apparently so is OS X. I'm assuming the other colour is Linux or Chrome but no idea which is which.

For future reference, when making graphs make them in black and white first and if they are visually distinct then you can add whatever colours you want.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago

They're in order in this highlighted column:

  • Windows (at the top)
  • OSX
  • Unknown
  • Linux
  • Chrome
  • IOS
  • Other (dotted)
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[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unknown could be AI scrapers

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not only, since those stats actually are based on trackers and such, when you use something like uBlock Origin, pihole or anything that blocks trackers they will just list you as "unknown".

Scrappers are probably under "others"

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unknown could be anything. It could even be windows!

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[–] klay1@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

A couple of peaks of unknown seem to match very nicely with the windows graph, if you invert it. I think the two big windows crashes we see are measuring differences or re-categorization effects. ... or how about brand new or discontinued versions of windows, that were not counted as windows yet?

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[–] Chaser@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Interesting. But since when is iOS a desktop operating system?

[–] atthecoast@feddit.nl 6 points 3 months ago

Probably since iPad gained a keyboard with mousepad?

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

OS X

I don't use Apple devices and didn't realize that they didn't all use the same operating system (OS X vs IOS). Shame on me, I guess.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not even called OS X anymore, now it's called macOS.

iOS is actually based on macOS, although it's slimmed down a lot. iOS has been further split into iOS and iPadOS, although they're pretty much the same thing. It's just a marketing move.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Other is really taking off in 2025. Should we invest in other?

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

At this rate it will only be relevant for another 15-20 years.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

TIL there's a new operating system that came out less than a year ago but already captured 5% of the market, passing ChromeOS and Linux

This stat is rubbish because they're basing it on web views, and the millions of ai scraping bots are influencing it

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So I assume this is some kind of web traffic graph?

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