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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We are a plutocracy, our government sold out long ago and is the most corrupt country of all time.

I know that they say it's actually pretty good and we are a rule of law country without a corruption problem, but unfortunately, that's because we've made corruption and bribery perfectly legal.

If you haven't done this yet, check out Super PACs, long story short it's a cash pipeline with laughably weak oversight, and everybody in government knows exactly why it legal.

In 1970s FBI did a bribery catfish of reps, mayors, and more, and almost half of them took the bait and many were convicted of bribery (ABSCAM).

Starting in 2000s, Super PACs allow unlimited funding and they don't have to declare who gave it to them. The FBI is now investigating furries instead of congress.

It's a madhouse.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 days ago

And Trump asked recently, why don’t we have immigrants from Norway?

It’s mind blowing, the lack of self awareness.

[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Where do that money come from

In Norway, Healthcare is fund with the Government Pension Fund. Its an investment of petrolum benefits, but nowadays, its wealth is mainly due to speculation. In short, people in Norway benefits of the capitalist exploitation elsewhere.

From an international perspective, it does lower the wealth of workers anywhere but in Norway.

On the other side, in france healthcare was only funds by the workers, and does not participate in imperialism. It's maybe why the french state is so direct for securing its economics interests. Capitalism is note one issue, it is many issues

[–] grindemup@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

France may not participate directly in imperialism these days, but it sure as hell has neocolonial and exploitative structures in place. E.g. see this Jacobin article.

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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

social democracy is the best form of capitalism but it's still capitalism

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Norway has a very high gini coefficient, i.e. high inequality. It's just that the people at the bottom still get a decent standard of living.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You know, I don't think most people care about the inequality so much as the abject misery of being at the bottom of that equation. I kinda wouldn't care how many yachts a rich buffoon has if there weren't so many starving desperate people, it's just the optics are wholly awful for these ghouls in the world where cruelty and greed are so rampant that it's inevitable even the crumbs are sucked from those who need them the most.

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[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

I think a ceiling would actually be healthy. I don't love that we're still pandering to the rich even with this summary. Still, it's good to push any healthy message. I'm just saying it could be better. No one in the entire world needs more than 20 million dollars. No one. That should be the highest we allow, and even lower would be better.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Same here (Switzerland) but i disagree: inequality gets worse here too and a ceiling is the effective measure against it. We didn't fix capitalism, we only slowed it down a bit.

Sadly, initiatives have to explain complex relationships against "but then the rich fucks leave; less jobs!" and so even taxing inheritance over a certain value lost. Yet again.
Guess that's a weakness of democracies.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It also contributes to the climate catastrophe by providing copious amounts of oil. It also enjoys the fruits of the exploitation in the Global South, hence it can redistribute said fruits of imperialism to its people, which is indeed better than the US oligarchs hoarding it all, but not by a lot.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

The only thing that I think really needs to change is that it should be harder to get more wealthy past the point where the average person would say that you're wealthy.

That difficulty spike should be caused by an increase in taxes that you have to pay in order to accrue more wealth so that those taxes can be redirected to the less wealthy.

You can sail as high as you want to go, but you have to raise the tide along with you.

Then your wealthiness would match my ideal of what it means to be wealthy.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

A rising tide lifting all boats??? Nah Elon needs to tie three gold cybertrucks together to drive around or his pp cant be the big pp

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