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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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Not just uncaught murderers, there are a lot of people who have killed without legally being considered murderers.

People who killed people in accidents such as driving accidents or hunting accidents

People who killed in self defense

Soldiers who killed enemy soldiers

Executioners

Police officers who have killed on duty

Doctors and nurses who have made mistakes that accidentally killed patients

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[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Used to work with the criminally insane. I've also met a LOT of pedophiles. Not many because they actually were crazy but because they were trying to get declared as such to not get fucked up in prison. Most of them aren't even actually attracted to children they just wanna victimize someone and children are smaller / weaker and less able to advocate for themselves. The one thing pretty much all of them have in common is a pitiful combination of sadism and cowardice.

When I was 18/19 in college, I met a guy through my brother's work that was in his mid 40's. We hung out with him and his girlfriend a lot and he was pretty good friends with my brother. He even met my mom and family, helped her with some construction projects she needed done (dad died when I was 15, so she didn't have that extra help), and was invited to her wedding to my step dad.

Now we knew that this guy was an ex-con (the restaurant my brother worked at hired a lot of ex-cons), but we never really judged or pried into what happened. Honestly, this guy was always just chill, giving, funny, helpful, and respectful. I never got creeped out by him, and i never felt like he was inappropriate with me. We found out through a mutual friend later that this guy used to get paid to bleach the bodies of girls/women that had been raped and killed by others. To this mutual friend's knowledge, our friend hadn't actually done any raping/killing, but I was really struggling to feel much comfort in the fact that he "only" helped guys get away with it. Especially because I was a young, petite college girl at the time.

Anyways, I dont directly know of anybody ive met that has killed someone, but the fact that I know of somebody that did this horrible thing makes me think that you're correct.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I took a flight back from Europe with a colleague years ago, we talked for hours. A year later he was found guilty of killing his wife with cyanide.

People do a great job of hiding their demons in a professional setting.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yup, can confirm, have a convicted offender colleague.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is quite likely that someone I knew either killed a person, or had them killed.

Said potential murderer is dead for a few years now and tbh I don't think anyone wants to uncover this mystery anymore. Since the whole thing was very long ago, it's easier to just ignore it instead of ruining everyone's memory of a person. The other person who could've done it has been dead for a decade or 2 too.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

Let's just say some people I know lost their mother at a very early age and when one of them finally asked the father about it 30 years later, his explanation was "well person X was at work that night, ask him". Person X being a business partner of his, somewhat of a low-end organized crime guy. Dead for like 10-15 years at that point.

When I say lost, I mean she hasn't been found decades later. Not even a body.

Early 90s were a crazy ass time here in Estonia.

There's more details I know, but honestly if I go too into detail and the story makes its way out of our tiny community here, people who know about the whole thing will instantly figure out who I am and who I'm talking about and I don't want that. Not because I'm in any danger from anyone - just because I don't want it to happen.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Two people, in fact. First was a Hell's Angels enforcer. Had lunch at a Chinese restaurant with him and a few other people from my former Kung Fu school. Apparently he was a former student and credibly accused of murdering a rival biker gang member, but the jury was hung and couldn't convict.

Second was none other than Shrimp Boy, after he got released from prison for the murders he committed but before he got locked up again for the racketeering charges. Met in in Chinatown literally a few days before the feds closed in on him. Shared a cup of tea with him without knowing his identity and didn't find out until someone present told me who he was days later.

[–] BurnedDonutHole@ani.social 3 points 2 days ago

I've been a lawyer for over 20 years... So, I've met more than a couple.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 126 points 3 days ago (3 children)

On the flip side, you've probably met someone who has saved a person's life.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I saved my self a bunch of times by convincing my self to not kill myself.

Does that count?

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[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago

I once gave a friend of a friend a condescending chewing-out after they did something hurtful.

Some time later our mutual friend informed me that they had died, but declined to tell me the cause of death.

Much later I discovered it was self-caused.

... Were my words too much? We spend our lives trying to be more effective communicators. What if we're too effective when it matters most?

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 3 days ago (4 children)

If you’re old enough you’ve definitely met someone who has done at least one murder. The question is intent as you’ve said: did you meet the drunk driver or the serial killer with 50 bodies in the basement who hasn’t been caught.

Also this applies to rape and that is far more common because it is simply less reported. One of your buddies might be a person that has straight up forced a person to have sex, maybe violently

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I drive now! Good luck everyone else!

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

I killed someone. It's a called a dead name for a reason.

[–] lowflyingduck@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I wonder how many people who have themselves unknowingly caused a death, though some thoughtless or innocuous action. E.g. a discarded banana peel causes another person to later slip and fall with a fatal result.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

the number of people who fall into this category through their use of stock LED headlights is non-zero

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[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My ex-brother-in-law killed a family of four while DUI. The cops really screwed up the investigation so he was able to get the charges down to a minor moving violation. He never saw the inside of a jail.

When I was in high school a friend of a friend that I knew and had hung out with at a couple of times was a serial killer/rapist. He was one of the last people executed by that state.

Edit: My grandfather killed some Nazis in WW2. Several former coworkers killed people in the line of duty as soldiers. And, I worked as a records clerk at a nursing home, so I knew several doctors and nurses that had taken people off life support.

[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (9 children)
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I have. I used to drink with someone who later killed someone while drinking.

Carl can fuck right off.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I knew a guy who got imprisoned for murder, really nice guy, the way he described it was an armed robbery where the armed person got spooked and fired off a shot. They were arrested on the road while taking the victim to the hospital (they weren't trying to hurt anyone) and ended up getting booked for murder and kidnapping.

I met him a few years after he got out on probation.

Edit: fixed a typo

[–] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If you're an engineer you've almost certainly contributed meaningfully to the death of someone.

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[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You have definitely met someone who will kill themselves in the end. The rate is about 1/70 people in the US, and for every successful suicide there are 32 attempts of varying seriousness.

[–] Quexotic 11 points 3 days ago

Had a buddy that couldn't take the pain anymore and he had enough drink and anxiety meds one night and he just never woke up.

He made sure to turn on his music extra loud so it'd bother his neighbors so his cat would be okay and would be rehomed.

He was a good guy.

[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've met two people who took their own lives.

My mom shot herself with her husbands gun.

My moms father shot himself with his rifle.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I've met multimillionaires before so yes, thousands of people probably

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[–] HelterSkeletor@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I work in healthcare, I've removed... so many people from life support. I often wonder if that's, not the same, but...

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I have killed someone. My mother. It was intentional, legal and sanctioned. She was at the end of her life, suffering from Alzheimers and her entire family was present. I volunteered, as her only living child, to pull the plug. And I did. Did I kill someone? Yes. Was it the best thing to do at the time? Yes. Do you wonder if that's a good way to go out of this world? Probably. Would you be wrong? Yes.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When I was younger my grandmother died of cancer. She wanted to pass at home and we lived with her.

For months she just declined, until she was bed-bound in the living room, having carers and family members feed her, clean her after she pooped on herself, sometimes randomly screaming in pain, having nightmares, and was largely incoherent. In the last week she didn’t have the strength to eat and her doctors told us to just stop feeding her. She had a death rattle that lasted for days and echoed through the house every time she breathed, until finally something just gave out.
It was not dignified. It was not peaceful. It was deeply traumatizing. I wish we could cut her suffering short somehow – for us as much as her.

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[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That may be true in the US.
Most of these reasons don't apply to normal more civilized countries

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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah and several of them were my kin and were murderers. My kin were the folks who you went to when you needed someone dealt with, hell I wouldn't be surprised if my great great aunt killed someone as a favor to the Hells Angels back in the day. Let alone some of the kin I'm less close, I know at least one of them ended up in prison for murder back in the day due to some such Berdoo nonsense. Funny enough a kinsman who I only met once was also in Prison at some point and was on the bad side of the law into old age threatened to kill my sperm donor, glad he didn't kill stealing is a step to far and that sombitch belongs either to my grandmother or myself.

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[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Met a guy after he got out of prison for drunk driving and killing someone. I don't know the details but he wouldn't go anywhere near alcohol, so at least he's trying to be better.

Also I have met quite a few War Veterans over the years.

As far as i know, i have met only one person like this.

A guy i knew in "highschool" (kinda equilevant) killed his friend a few years later while both were drunk and had just come out of sauna. He thought that his girlfriend had cheated on him with the other guy and woops, axe to the back.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

Unless you live in a civilised country where guns aren’t everywhere and not everyone is a war vet.

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I know a train operator. They are sometimes involuntary involved in other peoples suicide.

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[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

I had a co-worker at one of my first big boy jobs working for a hospital, and this guy was weird as weird could be.

He was an older man, probably in his late fifties at the earliest, and we worked in the IT department, and he would blast Avril Lavigne music non-stop.

To make this worse, he wouldn't stop even if you asked him to, and he didn't talk to people, he was rough, he was mean, he was grouchy, he was unapproachable.

About a year after I started, he disappeared one day.

I asked my co-workers about him, and the truth finally came out.

Apparently, about six months before I started, he had gotten into a car accident and killed two people in the car accident, and he was found at fault for drinking and driving.

The reason he was not in jail at the time was his trial was still going through, and the weekend before he disappeared, his trial commenced, he was found guilty and he was sentenced.

And, yeah, as far as I am aware, he is still in jail today if he's still alive.

About a year later, one of my other co-workers was murdered by his wife and their pastor, and it became nationwide news.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

If you want to test this, start up conversations with the combat vets around you. You might not like the answers. That's the vast majority of killers I've known (that I've known).

[–] Aequitas@feddit.org 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (17 children)

Significantly more likely if you live in the USA. Not so much in big parts of the rest of the world.

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[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I met the guy who killed my best friend. At her funeral. He was her boyfriend. He got her addicted to drugs. Technically she killed herself by OD-ing, but had he never got her addicted she’d still be alive today. I couldn’t face him. He tried to talk to be and just walked away.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I have no knowledge of encountering such person, also i never met anyone who owns a gun

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago
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