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[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago

So much freedom, my poor European brain just can't understand it

[–] duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Boy the original NAZIs would have loved to have genetic data on everyone, once they got rolling on the Holocaust.

I wonder if IBM will help with the next one, too?

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Oracle will help.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Does it say what kind of DNA or... ?

[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

This seems like an effort to generate kompromat on every tourist to the US.

Names and addresses of every family member.

Probably an outrageous amount of access to your phone, it directly mentions location services.

10 years of emails, and 5 years of social media.

Biometric data and DNA samples.

The amount of espionage you could use this for is staggering. And I garuantee Palantir will get its hands on it.

[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Who in the right mind would want to visit the US at this moment in time anyway...

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Many people who think it's not that bad yet and they're right that they'll probably be ok. I know many people traveling to other hellhole countries. They're not scared. So if there's a congress they need to attend in the States, they go.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah my country warned transpeople to not travel in US like months ago, that alone should have raised some flags for everyone else as well

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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If you are so moronic to visit the united state of fascism at this moment in time then you deserve everything coming to you.

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[–] sp3ctre@feddit.org 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So, if ~~1%~~ 2-5% of idiots travel to USA and get their DNA taken & saved in a database, estimations say, that 100% of EU citizens could be identified, if I'm not wrong.

This is so f*cking scary. But it already was before with this 23andme or FamilyTreeDNA-shit.

Edit: corrected statistics

[–] theoretiker@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you have a source for this? I find it very interesting and would like to understand how exactly that would work. I assume it has something to do with some genetic distance between people and triangulating.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

Some serial killers could only be identified because of these gene databases. When some distant relative uploads their DNA they can do some old school detective work and narrow down the suspects which they then can investigate further.

There is a veritasium episode about it:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1tHpPo3CuCfx3UGm1DLE0C

[–] sp3ctre@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

More broadly, a genetic database needs to cover only 2% of the target population to provide a 3rd cousin match to nearly any person

https://www.science.org/cms/asset/089c0893-0dc3-4668-be4a-cff6d3915fad/pap.pdf

Since I don't know about newer studies, I will correct myself to 2-5% to identify the rest.

My 1% came from a german source (Question at the Bundestag by Die Linke-party) which could still be correct though:

Currently, over 1 percent of the population in Germany is already registered in the DNA analysis file (DAD) of the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA). This means that, statistically speaking, most residents have a third-degree relative in the database (see: Γ§). In other words, if familial searching were applied to the DAD, then theoretically, via the detour of near matches, every resident could be identified via DNA analysis, provided that sampling is uniform and unbiased

https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/19/040/1904087.pdf

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago (1 children)

EU people: Go vacation somewhere else, USA is not a good destination right now.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Seriously, I say this as a USian. We are not currently worthy of your tourist money. Nobody should vacation in the US for the next 3ish years, if ever again.

Nobody should vacation in the US for the next 30ish years, if ever again.

There, I fixed that for you.. Even if (HUGE if here) the orange blob survives it's term and willingly gives up power (not a great track record there) the fascist rot won't go away over night..

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[–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 38 points 2 days ago (8 children)

The most powerful country in the world going fascist is so fucking scary tbh

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[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

here, you need to wear this electronic ankle bracelet while you enjoy our land of freedom...

[–] dass93@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And we track everything you do and did. So maybe you can leave.Β 

But maybe we'll also throw you in some cage and send you to a torture dungeon in a random country of our choosing if we feel like it.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 96 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But what if I don't travel to the US?

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Problem solved. Never visit USA.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's always with our precious bodily fluidsπŸ’¦ with fascists...

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Mah fluids!

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 66 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ooops@feddit.org 59 points 2 days ago

Close. The correct answer is: "Lol! No! Fuck off!"

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 49 points 2 days ago

So brave, so free.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What the actual mother fucking deep fried double wide inbred corn sucking bull shit are these god damn cunts doing now? Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and all his carpenter friends sigh. I'd apologies on behalf of my country, but I don't think enough of it truly cares enough for it to mean anything, so instead I'll just say run, and quickly.

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh, and it requires a mobile application to submit all this information - so good bye phone security as part of it all.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's probably illegal in America too, we don't really have well-defined laws anymore

[–] gabelstapler@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hear my words: in a few month the EU will require DNA as well. Right now they are going: write that down, quickly write that down..

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[–] henfredemars 32 points 2 days ago

That’s really excessive.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (7 children)

You'll have to suck it out of me. At least the half I can easily give...

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