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[–] ToxicWaste@lemmy.cafe 2 points 7 hours ago

Yes, giving a TV the WiFi password is a mistake nowadays. but it really shouldn't be! I am the owner, administrator and master of disaster to every machine I bought and paid for!

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For what it’s worth, our Sony OLED with the hidden “apps only” option still has a clean UI:

And basically no forced apps, as far as Android goes (which is not a high bar TBH).

An older one isn’t bad, either.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't give your TV the wifi password.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But then how is your tv supposed to find the jellyfin server? Better to block your TV's mac address from accessing the internet.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Plug in any tiny computer with HDMI out.

The TV is a display. You want anything generating images separate, in case you find it disagreeable, and want to obliterate it with a ball peen hammer.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

An Apple TV, a Roku, an old PC, a fucking pi, anything can speak to jellyfin just fine.

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

This is why my LG TV does not know the WiFi password.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You let your tv connect to the intertubes?

First mistake.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You know something else that sucks about LG TV's? If you disconnect them from the internet, you randomly get screen blocking pop-ups telling you to connect to the internet so you can enable voice features.

I regret buying an LG TV.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

I've got a fairly new LG TV and I've never had that happen. Maybe the voice button on the remote gets pressed by accident?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How then do I get Plex running on it?

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Get another box (like Apple TV) and use that.

[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You let that box connect to the innerwebs, second mistake.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You need to use a third box, and connect that one instead, obviously

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

At least with those boxes, you have a less-expensive switching cost should they make your experience worse. A tv should only do one thing, display content which is fed to it. How you get that to the tv is less important than isolating the “smart” tv from the internet.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 1 day ago

My LG TV is connected through PiHole with all lg domains blocked. I'm not getting any update notifications and can still stream from Jellyfin.

[–] StitchInTime@piefed.social 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing. I’ve been using my OLED as my primary display, and the last firmware nagging really got to me.

Since you’ve posted this, I did a factory reset wiping my network info and disabling every non-tv feature.

And here I thought LG was better than Samsung at this.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh no. LG TVs have abhorrently slow and invasive smarts. You’re better off getting a Roku or AppleTV and doing that. Never connect the smart tv to the internet.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My LG needed to be briefly connected for a firmware update that fixed HDR video. Butbthen immediately disconnected again.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ethernet runs for that. It doesn’t get WiFi feeds from me. Ever.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wouldn't ethernet still be internet access...?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Yes but it is access you can physically disable. WiFi you would have to change passwords to really keep the TV out since it can turn itself back on.

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

What, the TV now has a way to plug itself in?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Man, I really fucked up by not getting one of the last remaining 4K dumb TVs a couple years ago when I had the chance. Now it's looking like my decade-old 46" 1080p one will be the last TV I ever own.

[–] DahGangalang 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Completely agree.

Currently working with a smart TV that never touches the internet (just plug other devices into it). I am low key paranoid they have some sub - protocol of HDMI that can connect from the TV to a game system and forward info out....but 90% sure that's just paranoia.....I hope.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I just watched a LTT video comparing $30, $300, $3,000, and $30,000 TVs and what struck me throughout the whole video was Linus struggling with and getting increasingly frustrated by the enshittified controls. The $30,000 TV was less bad than the rest, but every single one was a crappy UI (or worse, exploitative) experience compared to old TVs.

We shouldn't have to firewall our property to try to stop it from betraying us. It's a fucking outrage and becoming intolerable to the point of radicalization.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

HDMI does have an Ethernet function. It is theoretically possible to have another device route traffic behind your back via that. But there’s zero legit and reason to do this when adding WiFi to the TV is cheaper and less complex so it would absolutely invite lawsuits.

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What's even scarier (and I legit thing more likely) is despite the fact that either after firewalling off a smart tv's IP/Mac or using Pi-Hole to keep it from using the ad side of things and locking down firmware updates, that newer TVs seem increasingly likely to include antennas for 5G and connect to a fucking "partner" network for "free" to share revenue. It won't matter if you never connect it to the internet - it will just spy even if you don't use it's apps. Oh, and most new tvs have microphones (on the remote, but who knows about elsewhere). I'm not sure about cameras, but I wouldn't be shocked.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

If we get to the 5G era a faraday cage is simple enough to ruin that without wrecking the warentee.

We need open source TVs.

[–] emmanuel_car@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

Yep I was horrified to find my tv had a microphone. Physical switch to disable it at least (as long as it actually does disable it). And only using the dumb remote it came with, the smart remote with the mic lives in the drawer, has never seen a battery.

[–] zemo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I still use a 40 inch bravia from 2014 where the remote doesnt work. But it has no smart features thank fuck

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

I was literally on the verge of purchasing an LG C5 with my bonus this year. Now there's no fucking way in hell.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] terraborra@lemmy.nz 11 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I’ve got a 42” LG C3 as my gaming monitor. It’s connected to my network so that I can stream content from my plex server. Anybody know if there’s a way I can cut the TV’s access to the internet, to avoid updates etc., while still maintaining access to the home network?

[–] dontsayaword@piefed.social 20 points 2 days ago

This could be something you do via your router and/or firewall.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Usually it's an option on the router to block certain devices from the Internet. You'll want to assign a static IP to the TV first. If you need any help DM or post in any of the popular Selfhost or Privacy communities and we'll get you.

There's probably a security page with a "block access" option when you log into the router. It'll be brand specific where to look though. If you have a model can point you more

[–] terraborra@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 days ago

Cheers, yeah I thought about crossposting to c/privacy. I also should have searched first as it seems like it’s pretty common thing to do for networked devices of all sorts.

I’ll give it a go myself and do a write up for novices like myself if I succeed.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have the same TV and it's wonderful. It's connected to a gaming PC which I access my Jellyfin server from so it's not a problem. I do have a couple Bambu printers here and I set up my ASUS access points to block them from connecting to the outside world, which ended up being pretty easy for me even though I'm a newb.

[–] terraborra@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah that’s the thing, don’t want to spin up a 500w gaming pc just to watch stuff on plex

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Simplest is blocking the TV's mac address from accessing the internet

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Some TVs will repeatedly bitch and moan about not having an internet connection. For Roku-based tv’s you can choose reset from settings, then select the setup option for no network connection. Then it will shut up about it and act like a “dumb” tv. This requires using an external box for watching any internet-based channels/content.

[–] Sammirr@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, that's achievable. I use a DNS override for a couple of LG domains. Doing this, it can't update, although can use other apps.

Having said that, mine gets time from LG servers. So after a power outage, I have to set the time and date manually for SSL connections to work.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With a proper router, you can do this:

[–] Sammirr@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Not that simple with my older tele. If it fails to contact LG servers, it doesn't do a NTP update.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can root it and then there's tools. https://rootmy.tv/ probably won't work for you but has links.

If you manually assign it an ip and don't set a gateway address (or use an invalid one), it won't be able to leave your subnet.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

A consumer rebellion is our only realistic option.

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