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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 24 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I don't mind if my taxes feed and house people, even people who just moved here. Those are good goals and produce real products.

I do mind if all my taxes are used for unaccountable military organizations that are used to violate people's rights and harrass the poor and the vulnerable. Those are stupid goals and produce nothing of value.

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Just thinking hypotheticals, but what would happen if people could vote the percent of their own taxes would go. So you could choose the buckets where your own tax would go…

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Then things that weren't acceptable by people who can't think of priorities in a large system would be left aside. The point of voting in representatives is you vote in people who can have a better idea of what is needed in various areas.

Mean that's not always the case but way better than Joe Blow deciding all his taxes go to the military rather than education.

Mean I see the appeal but that voting has to come from informed voters with proper reasoning skills. Since we're in an age of propoganda nothing essential would ever be funded, people are too easily swayed.

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I know it’s just theories, but I wish I was a much better writer. I don’t know reading this I has this idea of a dystopian world where we get something like this, with technology people would be able to decide where there tax goes, at first would be considered really democratic, but people holding more money would have much more influence where money goes, more than today… and the class would be even more accentuated

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The only reason I want more money is to pay more taxes. I wanna walk around the city like "Yea, you like that park bench? Me too! You're very welcome! Hey, check out that bus! Looking good, right? Guess who paid for one 200000th of that? [points two thumbs at self like a total douche] THIS GUY!"

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

I hate taxes - in the current form. I would gladly pay more of my paycheck if it meant I'd get something tangible - not another fucking almost-free toast bread manufacturing line for a billionaire that he can use to sell us toast bread while making millions. No, I want a nicer park, road repair, bike trails, modernizing community buildings, better education and school supplies. Moving to Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, Netherlands, or Denmark would sure move me much closer to the goal.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

My county arranged for school lunches to be free. Free for all the kids. It's a pittance to pay in taxes and it scales all the way up to but not including the 1%ers. If you're poor enough to need it, chances are you're paying very little for it.

The right-wing shitheads in the county are citing that as overreach and trying to get it cut down.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like tracking these people down and cementing the words "Starving children makes me happy" to their cybertrucks or whatever would be appropriate.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

That would be truly satisfying, but i doubt they'd get it. So deep in the brainwashing they'd prob say it would force their parents to get out and find better work.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

62% of American voters support higher minimum wage, for example.

It doesn't matter.

There's no money to be made off of feeding the homeless. If Amazon doesn't want it, it won't be done. They sign the checks.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Fuck up part your taxes could go down and we still could feed everyone. The military and now ICE get a majority of our tax dollars.

[–] Jimjim@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Ive only experienced 1 homeless shelter, and it wasnt even "government funded" it just didnt pay taxes

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don’t even mind if my taxes go to people that don’t contribute back and just watch tv and drink beer all day if that keeps them off the street. I’d rather they don’t contribute than anti-contribute.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

go to people that don’t contribute back

you mean billionaires?

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 17 hours ago

No, those are the anti-contributors

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago

Yus.

Sensible anti-degeneracy approach.

And gets better than that... especially when ceasing blocks to them bettering themselves and their ability to help others however they can. Then the support given to them proliferates to benefit each and all.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’d like my taxes to help people in need. Unfortunately my taxes go towards skeletonizing brown children.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

And abducting local brown people and unmarked vans.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 4 points 15 hours ago

I knew the style was familiar. Norman Rockwell is iconic.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are you sure you don't want your taxes going to subsidizing billionaires and bankers instead?

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Israel needs tens of billions to commit genocide and war

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

CanIthinkaboutitnothanks

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I feel like I've seen this on my Lemmy frontpage at least 4 times in the last month

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

Well most people don't mind. It's just the vocal minority who really care. But they tend to be who governments pander too because they are the ones who pay the ~~bribes~~ contributions.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Consistent messaging, nicely done everyone!

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That silly ~~communist~~ ~~socialist~~ ~~just being a decent member of society~~ ~~not an asshole~~ ~~compassionate human being~~ regular ass member of society is at it a again.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The best way to abolish all those poor people is actually giving them a richer future.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 day ago

Poverty is expensive for us all.

Best end it.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

They will have a richer future in the mines!

[–] MoribundMurdoch@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago

At a minimum, there appears to be roughly a 33% efficiency loss compared to simply going there and doing the work directly through your church (or via the voluntary sector in general). To be honest, I am mostly repeating something I remember hearing at the Independent Institute, which is very biased, lol. I am not even sure I remember the figure correctly, so take that with a grain of salt. I would need to look it up again to confirm exactly what the speaker was referring to. That said, volunteering genuinely makes you feel good. In my opinion, it is far better than taxation. I would def recommend volunteer work, but not taxation.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Depends on the homeless person. There are some I'd pay anything to make sure they were housed in a jailcell.

[–] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

you could say this about anyone though. like "there are some people with cancer I'd want to be in jail"

just because someone is homeless doesn't mean they're more likely to be a bad person

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

I think everyone with cancer should be behind bars, it’s a slippery slope, first you accept the idea of radical (i.e. extremist) cells, and next thing you know we’ve got cronenbergs in congress, where so you draw the line? I say nip it in the bud before we have Jeff Goldblum from The Fly putting their agenda into law books, our children getting taught about safe sex by the guy in From Beyond, and kids being forced to burn bibles in schools!

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

I'd watch that movie.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

Finally, someone brave enough to say it like it is.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 14 hours ago

My initial statement was much stronger but i knew people would be like omg not all homeless are bad. I can't say good or bad because i dont think people are that simple but they absolutely are more likely to commit anti social behaviour which I hate.

Welfare provides enough money to rent a place, buy utilities and food. So the only people who end up homeless are the drug addicts or people unable to meet basic decency requirements. This makes it so a majority of the homeless are horrible. They attack people, crash out on random strangers, shit up whichever area they are put into.

We've tried housing them it doesnt do anything except make the area horrible for normal people. We have an emergency housing system where you can go into the welfare office and tell them you're about to be homeless and they find you a place to stay but its at the point where people show up and say they'd rather be homeless than live next to these people.

So for these people I'd pay the extra costs to house them in jail but they technically havent been convicted of a crime to be put in jail.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

#notallhomeless Thanks for your invaluable contribution fizz

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 14 hours ago

Its a large majority. Over 70%