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Brave browser starts testing agentic AI mode for automated tasks (www.bleepingcomputer.com)

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/54848233

Brave has introduced a new AI browsing feature that leverages Leo, its privacy-respecting AI assistant, to perform automated tasks for the user.

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[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 55 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

privacy-respecting AI assistant

lol

[+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -22 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Very simple to opt out of using it in the settings.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

opt out

Fuck this very, very much

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It appears that they share the complete inability to comprehend "consent" of every other techbrodouche.

[+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

If you go into settings and see how easy it is to turn off, and you know, read the TOU, they've actually made it exceedingly easy to consent or revoke consent as one wishes.

But then again you probably don't actually use it and don't know that.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You are missing the fucking point. (Meaning you are probably one of the techbrodouches.)

Consent is positive, not negative.

Here's an experiment for you. Walk up to a strange woman you find attractive and grab her ass. When, not if, she reacts negatively, tell her it's OK: if she doesn't want her ass grabbed she can just ask you to let go. See how well that goes over as you explain your "opt-out" philosophy to a judge. THAT is the "Brave" model here. Inflict the thing someone doesn't want and say "oh, but it's easy to ask me to stop".

No. That is not the right way to navigate consent.

The right way to navigate it is to ask before grabbing the ass. Do that and you might get scolding, ejected from the club, whatever but you're not going to wind up in jail for sexual assault. Or, in this case, do this before you turn on the AI features. Make the consent positive, not negative.

But you knew that already. You just get your jollies from forcing undesired things on people, right?

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It seems you share the same understanding of consent.

[–] cloudskater@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, and that totally mitigates it's inclusion in the first place.

[–] Gadwin100@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Article says you have to manually turn it on in the settings.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago

Something must have changed in that case. (Maybe due to EU regulations?)

I had to opt out of it back when I turned those settings off. Still though, very easy to do. They're not hiding it like Microsoft or Google.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just dont get having an LLM browse the internet for you.

Like i get the internet is dead thing but, its truly dead if you cant even bother to explore it yourself.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Consider these requests:

Remove this ad/banner/spam for me.
Create a ublock rule
Filter slop from these results
Clean up this spammy website, and turn it dark
Filter out extraneous ads, and put all the prices for this shopping site into a spreadsheet for me, with fees
Check my grammar/wording here. Translate that.
Find useful information on X topic, give me some links to check.

Basically, it can be a tool to combat enshittification. And these kinds of tasks are simple/unconsequential/verifiable enough for local LLMs (or private APIs), especially if you are cognizant of their unreliability.

In short, fight LLM slop with LLMs.

To be clear, that tool is not Brave. I wouldn’t touch Brave with a 10 foot pole.

Nor Opera Browser, nor Atlas, nor any shitty scam or Tech Bro data farm. It should not pop up and beg you to use AI.

…But the open source efforts in this vein can be neat, rarely used tools.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 32 points 5 days ago (4 children)

if you have to use chromium, use vivaldi. european and strictly against ai in browser.

[–] freijon@lemmings.world 1 points 3 days ago

Or Helium

[–] Turret3857 1 points 3 days ago

I use Ungoogled Chromium or Cromite. Not a fan of Vivaldi's closed source model.

[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

thanks, I used Brave for some MIDI stuff that Firefox doesn't seem to like, I'll switch

[–] dimjim@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Vivaldi has been my browser of choice for many months now, absolutely fantastic!

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

[–] recursive_recursion@piefed.ca 6 points 4 days ago

Me too :(

I think at this point every non-gpl-licensed business will likely at some point just become a corrupted orphan crushing machine

[–] jaredwhite@humansare.social 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If anyone is surprised by this, why are you? 😂

[–] recursive_recursion@piefed.ca 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I use LibreWolf👌✨

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Librewolf still have AI inherited from Firefox

Although I'd still use that browser.

Edit: not everything is removed. AI chat bot? Gone. That one LLM to name your tab groups? Still there

[–] jaredwhite@humansare.social 9 points 5 days ago

They don't strip it out? I think Waterfox is doing that now, which is another good alternative.

[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago

What about Zen?

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

The company that shoehorned crypto mining is now shoehorning ai??

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[–] november@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 days ago

Surprised it took them this long.