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It’s bad because people are selfish. Unless it’s a really low amount, if it’s an amount enough to live, then some people won’t work. That might include me. I’m a rat.
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No in the current system because it will only lead to inflation, and everything comes from the almighty State exercising economic violence on the common people.
Actually no in general since as an anarchist I believe in tackling the necessities of the people but money isn't a necessity.
no
I would vote for it, because it seems nice and I don't see myself sitting still regardless, just that I'd choose more fulfilling / societally beneficial work if there weren't this idea of needing to provide and work with market forces. But then it came up with my cousin and she said she'd do fuck all, travel, spend time horse riding or whatnot, anything but work because why bother. Less anecdotal studies show cautiously positive results (or exceedingly positive in misleading headlines until you open the study and find two sides to the coin), but afaik have so far been very limited in both scale and duration. So idk but it seems at least worth a real try. Do we always need to have strong opinions?
"Do we need to have strong opinions?"
Well, I did phrase it that way intentionally. I'd like to hear compelling reasoning from both sides. Typically the stronger your opinion the more compelling a case you'll be able to make. I like it in theory, I think. But I'm not an economist and I like lots of really stupid shit in theory. So I don't know, but I'd like to hear from people who do or at least think they do.
It's all about the hedonsitic treadmill.
For those struggling to survive... UBI would benefit them.
But for those who are higher on the treadmill and seeking leisure above all else (like your example).. UBI would just allow them to be more of a mooch/loser than they already are inclined to be.
I've def met tons of people who basically only work because it means they have lots of money to spend on leisure. These are the same people who have very bad finances, despite having often high paying jobs. They don't seek to use income to benefit their life in a more long term way... everything is short term hedonistic impulsive pursuits and they only 'work' because they have to pay off the debt.
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Yes, I think it should happen. But I have no idea how to make it work at a large scale. And I don't think economist know enough to accurately say what will or won't work.
It will never happen.
not really, no
I'm of the opinion that nobody needs it. UBI is a precursor to the CBDC for those who aren't careful (there's speculation on what could be, whether it be a cryptocurrency [stablecoin like Circle or Tether], or something else entirely).
If anything, to avoid that, I'd recommend Jack Spirko's podcast, The Survival Podcast (which is on YouTube and podcast platforms). I'm a regular listener, and while I don't agree with everything he says, he has good points on how to avoid the UBI (doing a trade or freelancing is one way to avoid it entirely).