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[–] MoribundMurdoch@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The 2005 Kingdom of Heaven movie really did Guy and Sibylla dirty. I’m fairly sure the history was especially distorted because the writer and director were atheists and clung too tightly to a “religious tolerance is ideal” message, even at the expense of accurately portraying the actions of the actual historical figures.

[–] zemo@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

I see what you mean but I will always love that movie (the directors cut) for many reasons, one being its portrayal of philosophy.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago
[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (6 children)

That weirdly smooth skin and odd hair shape behind the neck are reminiscent of AI

Edit: Damn, I thought it was a pretty big consensus that AI was harmful to users and took away from human expression, but I seem to have found the last remaining bastion of the pro-AI movement here on Lemmy

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Once you use it for ad free cooking recipes.It's hard to go back.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

The one good use of AI

[–] ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)
1 (18.25-ounce) package chocolate cake mix
1 can prepared coconut–pecan frosting
3/4 cup vegetable oil
4 large eggs
1 cup semi-sweet chocolate chips
3/4 cup butter or margarine
1 2/3 cup granulated sugar
2 cups all-purpose flour

Don't forget garnishes such as:

Fish-shaped crackers
Fish-shaped candies
Fish-shaped solid waste
Fish-shaped dirt
Fish-shaped ethylbenzene
Pull-and-peel licorice
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...

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

You can't use AI for memes think of all the meme artists that will be out of jobs

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago

I'm generally anti-AI, but there's no hard rule against it in this comm.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Are you familiar with the “Chad” meme? The whole point is the over-the-top obvious, smack-you-in-the-face image editing.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There is a difference between editing, and asking a program to make an entirely new, weird looking image using half a sun in power and more data than the entirety of twitter

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I pretty strongly doubt that even without power usage or quantity of training data that people would stop gatekeeping prompt-generated imagery. It's a whole personality trait to put on whatever the yiff equivalent of grinder is now.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Are you telling me femchad isn't real 😭

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i mean, yeah. they clearly asked an ai to make an female version of the Chad meme.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Afaik this pic was around for a while. But it might've been made by AI in the first place, idk.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I wish more places adopted either tagging or outright banning of AI images

The least the user can do is be upfront about AI usage

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

that's fair. I just thought this one was particularly obvious. like it isn't even trying to not be ai.

I'm on the fence on this being a specific problem though. the individual tokens don't actualy take that much energy or water or whatever. the resource use is all in training. all of the infrastructure being built for ai right now is for training the next model. this looks like it was done with a model from a couple generations ago. like if you don't want to use a product that's bad for the environment then using an older model should be fine. especially if you run it locally, which is totally doable. this image looks like it used an older model.

as for plagiarism, this is a meme with no profit potential. if the internet cared about copyright in memes we would never share any image macros. the chad face that this is based on is also stolen art that the internet has been sharing for years. that's what memes are. stolen art shared without permission with no profit motive.

I'm a professional photographer/videographer who has directly felt ai hurt my career. it has also been trained off of my own images against my will. I generally hate ai, but i like to be an informed hater. all that said, there's really no moral grounds to hate this but not a version with the non ai Chad face.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a meme. They aren't trying to fool you into thinking it's something that it's not. It's not like it's misinformation.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes, but it uses an ungodly amount of power to produce an image from a plagiarism machine when there are many other femchad meme formats out there

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but it uses an ungodly amount of power

Wha. You can self host stable diffusion on your home pc. There's nothing ungodly about the power requirements. The claims are wildly exaggerated, and worse, never verified by those using them as some kind of gotcha.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

As I have done in the past, and nothing has come close to its level of power consumption. Similarly, there's more to AI than just making the images. By downloading and using generative AI, you're supporting their creation, which is currently using more energy than some small countries, even the open source ones

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I'm not saying I like AI images or think people should use them more often, I'm saying in this context I don't this a disclaimer is needed. If the only problem is "I don't like AI images because they're bad" just down vote or suggest to community moderators and/or instance moderators to ban AI images.

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I have a piece of advice for you:

Get over it.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 15 hours ago
[–] BillBurBaggins@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

For a meme? No thanks, talk about over the top

Serious big brain/heart energy.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"You're not that Guy"
"I am that Guy"
- Amos

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sibylla no, she will not let him go

Let him goooo

Sibylla, she will not let him go

Let him go-o-o-o-o

She will not let him gooooooooo

[–] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Oh mamma mia, mamma mia.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s fucking hilarious, I want to know more

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 63 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Unfortunately, Guy de Lusignan was a bit of a twit, and the Frankish nobility were right to not want him on the throne. He got into a quarrel with the legendary Saladin (not as legendary at the time, but having just fucking united a vast empire taking up much of Turkish-occupied Anatolia and the Arab world, making him a bit of a threatening opponent for a little crusader-state to be picking fights with) and ended up losing everything in the process, including Jerusalem itself, to Saladin, kicking off the (largely unsuccessful, though very eventful) Third Crusade.

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

Hallmark lifetime movie energy.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 2 points 10 hours ago

Unfortunately, yes.

But it's sweet, at least, that she loved him that much

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Oh, it's THAT Guy

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Third Crusade

Pippin would be proud.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 14 points 1 day ago

We've already had two crusades, yes.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And then Saladin dismantled the outremer. A happy ending if there ever was one

And then the 4th Crusade took it back!

Wait, no, it says here proto-capitalists attacked Constantinople, crippling the Byzantine state instead?

That can't be right. It's so very stupid.

[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good good, now add the link so I can read the whole article

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't get it. If she was married before, wasn't this guy Guy a king already?

[–] cjoll4@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, her son Baldwin V was king. Guy was Baldwin V's stepfather. Baldwin V died in childhood which made Sibylla the Queen, and her husband was temporarily the King-Consort or Prince-Consort or whatever the appropriate term was for a Queen's husband at the time.

But in this particular time and place, the Queen's husband typically became King at coronation and assumed the role of monarch in her place. This is what everyone expected to happen. All the vassals hated Guy and wanted her to pick someone else.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Guy bringing the strong D game.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago

A classic loophole!