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Fediverse
A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, Mbin, etc).
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I love the goal this port is trying to achieve, and I try not to be negative about content. But lately I’ve seen the kind of gate keeping that is souring people on that other site.
I’ve had 2 fairly recent examples of it. In one case, the community pushed back on the poster for being an ass. They repeatedly doubled down, and were repeatedly called out for it. It was good to see.
The second was a mod applying a definition to a community that doesn’t exist in its stated rules. I haven’t finished with that one yet, but depending on how my response plays out, I’ll be done with that community, and I’ll just go back to that other site. The particular community is excellent both here and in R-world, so I won’t miss much by saying goodbye to it on Lemmy. I’ll be sad, though.
Can you not recreate that same community on a different instance with the rules that you want?
I could, but the community is pretty good for the most part. I’ve only had the one issue with the mod, and I plan on starting a conversation post to try and have the community weigh in on what they think the rules should be going forward.
What is R-World?
Sorry, was trying, and failing, to be clever. Was referring to Reddit.
I often upvite posts. I try to make an effort to leave comment now and then. I rarely find anything to make a post about tho.
Maybe you find something for https://lemmy.world/c/Dullsters@dullsters.net :p (i forgot how to properly link communities...)
Subscribed! Thanks :)
I'd like to suggest removing timestamps on all comments, like you could still toggle a button to see the timestamp of a comment if you wanted to, but the timestamp shown on default doesn't serve any purpose other than tell the users how fresh or how stale the conversation is. When the conversation is say only a few hours old, many users will choose not to engage because we assume the conversation is over and there isn't any point in engaging further, so we skip altogether and move on. I can tell from my own experience I've done this more than a few times, I'm sure others have as well. When you only have a few thousand users across the world, unlike Reddit, we must preserve the freshness of the few conversations we do have so as to increase engagement from all.
This is an interesting idea, or maybe we just need people to be more willing to comment in old posts. Reddit is actively hostile to old posts, but they should work fine in Lemmy/PieFed since we have sort options like Active and New Comments. On old forums people used to continue talking in old posts forever, we could do that here no problem, the software supports it.
On the other side I don't want to engage in discussions that are over. The Threadiverse is organized in a wayz where new content is favored in your feed. Of course there are discussions that stretch over a couple of days, but after, they die. And I think this is just the way it works, it is not meant to show all posts ever made in an equal way.
With the "active" sort, I regularly get posts on top of my feed that were originally made days or weeks ago, but still have discussions going on in the comments. I dont think thats a negative thing at all.
All decent advice. Here's a thought experiment.
Start a discussion, debate, or ponder about [etc]
By the same token it would be bad to stop such a discussion, right? Right.
Make new communities if you don’t see one that fits
Therefore it would be bad to *destroy" such communities, right? Indeed.
Upvote the things you like
So, it would be bad to downvote the things you - personally, subjectively - don't like - right? It wouldn't? Why so?
Don't downvote other people's good-faith opinions. It's petty, it's juvenile, it's toxic. Even if you don't see it that way. It's precisely what will discourage the participation we all want to see.
Because the fediverse is still fairly small, downvotes stick out a lot more. A number of them I think, "How could anybody downvote that?" and just wonder because often they seem to be "I had a shitty day and I particularly don't like YOU" downvotes.
I often sort a thread by Top, and even the highest voted posts are often +(big number) -1. Because I personally do not downvote without cause, I assume they are sincere, but then it becomes a question of why, and I could never figure it out. Okay, whatever, no biggie.
But recently I had some time on my hands and I am aware of lemvotes.org, so one day I saw this again and decided to just informally start looking up these weird ass loner downvotes. Nothing sustained, just whenever one stuck out to me as being why??? I'd go and look it up. I've been doing this for roughly 2-3 months now, no schedule or commitment other than whenever I felt like it, across the board, no attention paid to community or post content (other than anything political pretty much not being worth the trouble, lol).
What I expected was a variety of usernames attached to these single downvotes.
But what I saw was a core handful of users across the board, with the occasional outlier.
Kinda pathetic, honestly.
Interesting. Could you also see a reason for why they downvoted? Do they downvote a specific type of content or do they downvote just about everything?
Lurking is so much easier though!
I comment. Reminds me of how I'd end up playing medic in tfc/tf2- someone has to do it.
I don't post original stuff often, though.
Sometimes I feel like I talk too much. So I do limit myself.
fuck i'll lurk and smoke all day