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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago
[–] negativenull@piefed.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

ANTIFA, 1944, colorized (sort of)

[–] whosepoopisonmybuttocks@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

That's just band of brothers... Great show btw.

[–] Jimjim@lemmy.world -4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

No. I understand the desire to define these guys as "antifa" but no. That IS NOT what they are. They are freedom fighters fighting against a fascist system, but to try to call them "antifa" to try to garner support is an obvious ploy to try to help legitimize a group that doesnt even resemble the American armed forces fighting againt fascist leaders in the European theater in 1940s.

No this is not a picture of "Antifa" members, and I dont think they would appreciate you labeling them as such.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

fighting against a fascist system

You know what the "fa" in antifa means right?

Hint: it's in your text I just quoted.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 7 points 5 hours ago

Jim, antifa just means anti FA or anti-fascist. These soldiers were against Nazis and fought them which makes them anti-fascists and therefore AntiFa. Now they might not label themselves as such were they alive nor were all of them leftists, but that doesn't take away the fact that they were in fact Antifa.

[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 0 points 11 hours ago

I understand why you need this type of propaganda in the US. However, there is several flaw that may be an issue in this take :

  • US regime was an inspiration for the nazi regime, formally (i.e with segregation) and informally
  • British, French and Canadian where colonial empire that make genocide before WWII. In fact, a lot of soldier during the war where forced by those empire, and some where killed after the world, because their colonial empire refuse to pay them or give the freedom their promise for. This is not irrelevant, in fact according to Aimé Césaire, this is the root of fascism

Those countries (specially the US) use massive bombing against cities, targeting civilians to spread terror and break resistance. If it war true in Germany (and it still a war crime and a fascist move), it was true in other space like Normandy, where whole city was destroy for little strategical interests and massives casualties.

After the victory, allies deport and detain massively former german soldiers, including forced one, and some of them where arbitrary execution where done (including on french people).

Those authoritarian regimes lead to fascists movement in response. People that where not linked with far-right, where influenced by it, in order to denounce what killed their relatives.

Of course, this violence spare the nazi elite. It's well known that scientist could escape in collaborate with the US or the URSS, but even some nazi general or high administrator could work for the US (in the FRG or NATO) on for the colonial forces. France for example quickly hire former SS to repress colonies in Indochine (Vietnam) and Algeria. Those SS make a political party, known has the "front national".

I'm not saying that the real antifascist where the USSR, they where some antifa, including during the d-day (i.e the anarchists of the Nueve). I'm underlying that the fascism is not something coming from outside our societies, but from it.