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[โ€“] Arancello@aussie.zone 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

mercans repeating father Putins wishes.

[โ€“] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Putin with be happier if countries left NATO, not the EU though.

[โ€“] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

Putin would love nothing more than a broken un-united Europe, easy to pick them off one by one

[โ€“] nuko147@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The USA are our allies, and China is our enemy. Did I understand correctly?

[โ€“] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago

That depends on your personal current Reality^TM^. In this week's Trumpian Reality China seems to be an ally, and the EU a hostile power occupying four friendlies. This might change next Monday, of course.

[โ€“] ardorhb@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Some of the most anti-EU countrys leaving the EU? Luckily I do not see big long term negativ consequences here.

[โ€“] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Trump is having trouble with Mearsheimer's blob.

[โ€“] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

If Poland left the EU, the Russians would march in and take the Sulwalki Gap at a minimum. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania would disappear too.

Japan and China...nope, they would back stab each other.

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[โ€“] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Even if those 4 country would leave the union still would stand strong lmao

[โ€“] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Might be stronger if a certain country left..

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[โ€“] rikviergever@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Make Europe Fascist Again

[โ€“] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe a sort of psuedo-Brexit approach would be best when it comes to Hungary? Specifically...

1: Hungary effectively leaves the EU in nearly all ways.

2: Hungarians still have free movement, so people can leave Hungary and seek a better life in the EU.

This allows the more libre people and youth of Hungary to leave, while the conservative elements instinctively shelter in place. Plus, Hungarians who go back, will relate their outsider lives to Hungarians who stayed. In effect, the disparity in lifestyle and wealth will become increasingly obvious with every Christmas gathering. Given time, the remaining Hungarians will ask themselves "Why don't we live good lives?" and start looking at Orban with contempt for mismanaging their nation.

Toss in a provision to allow the EU to vote on whether to let Hungary resume being a full member every ten years, and maybe an optional special vote after a regime change. This gives a lot of flexibility to the EU.


Whether this kind of approach can work...๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

World's complicated and annoyingly random.

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[โ€“] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Oh yeah, our ideas are super persuasive these days.

[โ€“] Kissaki@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago

It's insane that these people are elected representatives of so many people.

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