People defending this decision or blaming the individual mod is wild. Gabe is famously libertarian and known to encourage moderation (or rather lack thereof) in line with his libertarian worldview on Steam. This is unfortunately very much on brand for the platform and Gabe himself.
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There are differences between the political stances of Libertarianism and Islam. And while those two realms of religious/social beliefs are somewhat incompatible, outright hate speech is not generally acceptable on the platform.
In this particular case, the mod should be removed.
outright hate speech is not generally acceptable on the platform
This has been on Steam for almost 4 years. Valve doesn't give a fuck. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1853200/TYRONE_vs_COPS/
They are not any less compatible than any other religion and liberty.
Every religion has been through phases of being more or less open to interpretation. Right now islam is undergoing reformation, which is always kind of a bloody affair, just look at the start of protestantism.
But that does mean that a whole large group of Muslims is starting to realise you can believe in god without listening to the silly parts of the texts (like what to eat) same as when Christians started allowing their people to eat pig and shrimps.
Don't just lump these people in one big group together. Religion is one thing, politics another. I grew up around Muslims in a Nordic country, and none of them are any more religious than my grandparents were Christians (that is, exactly enough to be able to claim that they are)
They are not any less compatible than any other religion and liberty.
That's arguable. There are some parts that align well and some core parts that the religion specifically forbids that Libretarianism demands. This is a decent reference https://eathealthy365.com/libertarianism-and-islam-a-comprehensive-compatibility-guide/
"a Muslim cannot be a philosophically consistent, “doctrinaire” libertarian without abandoning core tenets of their faith."
It goes a long way beyond conceptually non-orthodox.
I've worked with Muslims for ages, looked into the religion to understand them better and I've worked with Libretarians and dug into that because they have a LOT to unpack.
I'd say on the whole, the Muslims have a lot stronger grasp on their religion than the Libertarians have on their core tenets.
Now that this is out of the way, would you care to comment on my point that Libertarians don't notably support hate speech as a core tenet? Because that's the majority of my point.
Maybe not as a core Tenet, but it does have a... lets call it a coincidental overlap.
Could we get a link to the game?
Edit: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2451100/Little_Rocket_Lab/
Wishlisting a game, even if you don't plan to buy it, can increase visibility of a game in Steam.
You can also mark reviews as not helpful.
Looks like a cross between stardew and factorio so gona give it a try this weekend
You should be free to be rude online. It’s useful to know who the rude ones are so you can avoid them. Censoring is a bad idea in this case, and I believe Valve has taken the correct stance.
Expressing that a group of people shouldn't exist is way further than being rude.
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"They're not all white males so it's DEI"
These people are just as annoying as the people that cry about there not being enough diversity. Just don't think about the character's races or whatever.
looks like its just a mod drunk on a bit of power rather then Valve itself.
That may be the case but it is frustrating that companies can hide behind the bad actions of those working on their behalf or are an independent subsidiary that a normal person can't distinguish between.
Valve's stance can be determined by their action or inaction on this.
Anyone gonna post the TOS or we all just gonna wave our dicks around in the comments
tbf it doesn't say "i don't like muslims"
https://steamcommunity.com/id/breakzoras/recommended/2451100/
I mean. The sentiment is kinda the same in this case. But yeah, do t use quotations if it isn't a quote.
I think it's a perfectly valid review. It is stupid and racist, but that's clearly on the reviewer and not the developer.
With any rating system you'll always get someone leaving a negative rating without valid reason. At least with this one, anyone who reads it knows they can ignore it.
It's a valid review until some people start saying same thing for Christians and Jews and suddenly the policy will change to "minimize spreading hate".
I still agree that this falls under hate speech and should be removed for that reason.
I just don't think that there is any other reason for its removal, so Steam keeping there is at least consistent for now.
The only thing we cannot afford to tolerate is intolerance itself.
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I used to work for a company that made blinds that people could order online and would then have to put up themselves and one person left a negative review because they dropped the set of blinds on their head while trying to install it.
The owner was delighted because it was such a stupid 1 star review. Anyone reading it would just laugh at the person leaving the review and wouldn't think negatively of the company.
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I don't like Christians
I don't like anyone that wants to make laws based on their favorite fairytale.
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Based dev and I wishlistrd that game because it looks fun and I want to support them for the response alone, but I think I kind of agree with that decision, or can at least see where it's coming from. Disliking a game for its political message seems entirely valid to me, if someone made an otherwise amazing game but the message is "hitler was great actually", I'd like to be able to negatively review that. And since it's not review bombing but actual individual idiots, it shouldn't have a big impact wrt to the ratio. If anything I read a review like that and become more interested in the game. Allowing it at least keeps them honest.
Though "it has muslims" as a negative review reason still seems like it should be removed just for being racist (or if i were to give the reviewer way more benefit of the doubt than they deserve, sounding racist. I guess in theory they could just not like religions in games, but let's be real they'd love if it were christians instead).
Problem is that "Hitler" is an individual while "Muslim" is multiple groups of people all with different views.
Also yeah it's usually used as synonym for "brown people."
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Its a "valid," review in that it does describe how they dont like the game and why, and hinestpy thats better than 90% of reviews. However, and this is a big however, racists should not get a pass and should be banned and removed for being racist. We should not brook these type of people and especially not give them a platform. It only makes things worse. Stamp the problem out with prejudice.
Yeah, what's wrong with supporting the arbitary, unnearned hatred of ethnic groups?
Muslim isn't really an ethnic group though. It's a religion represented in every race.
It isn't a specific organization of any one particular faith though. It's a category. I don't know how many Muslim organized groups there are, but my guess is that they all don't agree on who they consider Muslim. If you want to say ''this particular organization is responsible for...'' that can be accurate and holding that specific group of people or individuals in that group accountable for their actions is valid. But to say 'this entire category of people I can blame or hold accountable of any and all of the people I consider Muslim's actions' that's prejudice and bigotry, or whatever you want to call hatred based on category.
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It would be interesting to test with other groups of people. For example, when happens if all my review says is "I don't like jews" or "I don't like Americans/Russians/Chinese people".
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