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A general question that happens to be my predicament at current. I'm a general safety admin/manager that has automated most of my tasks(emails/excel sheets)

Most days I doomscroll fediverse and lurk irc/matrix channels on the work desktop but am curious about more practical or useful things I should be doing instead. It's looking like this will be my life for a good while since job market is abysmal and promotions are hyperstagnate(have also hit a wall in improving my scripts). If anyone has any similar experiences, please share and advise, as I feel quite lost and trapped :/

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[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

If your profession has a professional society or industry has a trade association, look into webinars, certification classes, or other events they might have. They often have opportunities to get involved with the organization as well, which could look good on paper to management when promotion opportunities arise

[–] superduperpirate@lemmy.world 117 points 1 week ago (2 children)
  • take professional development on my employer’s budget
  • bring a book
  • don’t be afraid to take slightly longer than usual lunches for errands or for exercise or whatevs
  • if monitoring is lax enough, and there’s unmonitored guest wifi, bring your personal laptop and play some vidya
[–] PETE_OPSEC@piefed.social 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

what is professional development?

[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

money given to you to obtain certifications, for example

[–] wirelesswire@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 week ago

Courses or other training to develop your professional skills, preferably provided or funded by your employer.

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[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 11 points 1 week ago

Bring a whole laptop to play games? Get a Steam Deck! Or if you want a smaller form.factor then get a Retroid Pocket 6.

Other than this:

  1. Learn something (language, art, etc)
  2. Read something
  3. Listen to podcasts
  4. If it's a private office then do a Costanza and sleep under your desk
  5. Watch TV shows or movies
  6. Take up knitting or crochet
[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You guys work 40 hours per week?!

[–] PETE_OPSEC@piefed.social 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this your way of saying you work more or less than 40? lol

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Less. And it barely feels like work.

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

My job requires 45.

You fill out your own timesheet. Mine varies from 39 to 50 hours. They dont care what it says. But if you turn in a lot of timesheets under 45 hrs and dont get your work done and people complain that youre bad to work with, you may get asked whats up. If however you always get shit done, it doesn't matter what it says for hours.

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[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 week ago

First of all, DON'T TELL ANYONE.

I'd use the time to learn a new skill, though at this point I have no idea what to recommend.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is me.

I do 30 minutes of checks in the morning, check email, and attend the standup. After that i got hours to kill.

I teach myself things.

Learned how to mine crypto.

Learned advanced bash.

Learned boto3 and started automating aws shit

Wrote 2 books on automating aws shit.

Played alot of online dungeon crawlers.

Learned how to code a dungeon crawler.

Leaned how to code a 2d scoller game

Inked alot of comic sketched from (then) deviant art.

Just to name a few

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Getting paid to make personal advancement is a pretty good deal.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Crazy. As someone whose job it is to automate, automating my job means getting more work. That’s kind of the definition of being more productive: by focusing on automation one person could do work that formerly took multiple people

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I very annoyingly have yet to see this suggestion - go talk to your fucking coworkers!! If everyone is showing up every day, then you have a whole office full of work friends to make! Make a habit of hanging out at the coffee maker or water cooler or whatever and shoot the shit. Ask people how their weekend was. Introduce yourself to people you haven't met before. Just chat with people for 15 min or so at a time, and then go back to your desk and do something fun/for personal development/for professional development. Then you have things to talk about - and then just always have some job related task on the backburner that you can keep working on, so when people ask about what you are doing at work, you can say "oh yeah, I'm working on X, which will have Y benefit."

THIS IS HOW YOU PROGRESS IN YOUR CAREER. Yeah, working on your skills is super valuable. But the people who go far, the people who are never short on job offers or pay raises, are the people who have lots of friends.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Unfortunately, this will not help when working with people who are only interested in sports. I was asked which team i followed for the World Championship in football, to which i responded "I don't watch football".

Response: "Then what sports do you watch?"

"I don't watch sports."

His eyes widened while he stood there thinking for a second. "Then what do you do in your spare time?" He asked, flabbergasted. I told him there are other things in life than watching sports.

It's like this for everyone I work with. They're all hillbillies. I need to get out.

[–] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you tried... watching sports? I'm kidding. However, with something like the World Cup coming up it's pretty easy to feign a passing interest. Even my mother seems in to it, and she usually couldn't tell a football from a pinecone.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I have tried. Just not my thing lol. Like, at all. I love playing sports, I just don't see the fun in watching someone else play.

And don't get me started on the people who's complaining about what someone on their team did wrong; they wouldn't be able to do what the athlete do if they got 1000 tries!

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Talk to people?! That's insane. Far better to deep dive into arcane coding disciplines and submerge oneself in niche strategy/fantasy roleplay. Fucking norm.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Contribute to opensource you use! Honestly I ping pong back and forth between swamped and bored , with contributing back as a good way to get ahead of future issues and involved in future work

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where can I find a job like this?

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

Office work. For years, I was afraid of working in an office because of films showing people how boring it is and it'll make you want to kill yourself.

But yeah, spend a year or two actually doing your job, then automate it.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 17 points 1 week ago

Make video games so I can leave the job I automated and do what I want to do. Which would probably also give me shit loads more time for activism.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm paranoid so I'd be continually monitoring the automation. 😉

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Especially if the automation is meant to take fractions of a penny from millions of transactions and deposit it into your bank account

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Spend it all trying to look busy.

But actually, I'd take online courses in something you have interest (learn a new language?) or something you just want to know better (networking? programming?)

Or maybe I'd start developing something for myself. You know that dream app you always wanted but doesn't exist yet? Maybe you can create it?

Or maybe I'd take a look at the currently open issues for the FOSS stuff I use and try to familiarize myself with the code base enough that I can start submitting bug fixes

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[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depends on the privacy but

Read, draw, learn a language, sleep, gameboy/psp

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[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

My job has a fair amount of down time. I'll use it to study for career certifications or work on personal projects that are work-adjacent.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Educate yourself and learn a new skill that is useful for the job you really want, assume this doesn't last long and that you might get fired or laid off one day. I remember a story on reddit about some guy who had outsourced his job to India. The guy only played videogames the entire day every day, after a few years the gig was up and he was fired. Dude had a hard time finding a new job since his skill set and knowledge base was several years behind of where his field had advanced to. Don't waste this opportunity, sure play some games, fiddle around now and then but use most of the free time to improve yourself.

If I was in your situation I would just learn how to make videogames and then eventually try to release one on Steam made entirely during the boss' time.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 9 points 1 week ago

I see lots of people suggesting non-work things, but that gets old fast and depending on your work environment can be stressful as you might get caught "not working"

I'd be trying to take on new projects. Start by getting to know your coworkers. If you have other people in your department, talk to them about what they're working on, things they'd like to see done. If you're the lone person in your area of work you could alternatively walk the floor and start talking to anyone who could be the stakeholder for a future project. Learn what their pain points are, where the current practices have blindspots.

You mentioned being a safety admin, I'm guessing that's industrial safety right? Start looking into whatever the current buzzwords are in the industrial safety field and make it a project you take to your boss and try to get funding. Find ways to improve the current processes and data tracking. If you don't already use a fancy incident tracking system outside of Excel, start doing some research and getting some numbers from vendors and have a chat with your boss about how using an actual purpose built database can improve compliance (that's about 70% of my duties right now is managing and configuring my organization's SAAS risk management database, but we also have ~10k workers in the field so it's highlighting useful data points in the data we've already collected primarily)

Unless your position is stuck below a manager with zero flexibility for process improvement, there's always new projects to be discovered and started to improve existing processes

[–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are a lot of recommendations to work on other SW projects. Be careful with this if there is a clause in your employment agreement (if you have one) regarding any work you do during work hours being owned by them. Especially don't do it on your work PC.

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

e621 and a bullet vibrator

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[–] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I suggest building your skills in your career by taking classes. You can also learn a new language with all that time. If you’re feeling creative writing a book is also a great hobby.

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[–] scytale@piefed.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mix and master my music. Music production takes a lot of time and eats up my weekends. 40 hours during weekdays would free up my weekends and I can actually rest.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've actually been in this situation when I was working as a sys admin at a webhosting company. First I played a lot of games. Once that started to get boring I taught myself how to code which set me up to transition from sys admin to development work.

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[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Look for another job; I despise being in the office to begin with, and being bored in the office is an insufferable hell. Reading and listening to music is ok, but I prefer to do that at home.

[–] PETE_OPSEC@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

I did apply to jobs for a good while, but I'm overly invested with my current employer since I've already been here for 10+ years. Not to mention AI has wreaked serious havoc on the hiring sector of things

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

You're looking at it, bud.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

I read. Right now I don't have anything to read so I do origami.

[–] Redacted@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I made a little game in excel and then just kept adding stuff to it, it LOOKS like youre doing something important cuz youre coding but no youre fighting goblins :)

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

This actually happened to me. I still had to look busy so I mostly just studied more or worked on a second job I had grading papers. I also spent a bit of time writing stories and designing things. Adding in something creative can help your brain balance things out.

[–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In the past I would write Wikipedia or translate libre software. Now I would work on developing Wikimedia and longevity organizations. Especially the engineered longevity have a huge future societal impact.

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Sit online responding to posts on social media...

I have to do 40/w but don’t have enough work. So I spend about 70% of that time reading manga online. I’ve also read up on a bunch of wiki articles.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Does this job have a claim on IP you create on company time? If not, I'm making videogames and contributing to FOSS projects.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I work in a highly automated job so there is plenty of downtime between tasks. We are allowed to use our phones even though officially we are not meant to be. That said, there is plenty of self-productivity activities you could do. You could read books, ebooks or audiobooks, listen to podcasts, watch gym training videos, learn and hone skills in self-learning sites like Udemy or Brilliant, etc. Of course, one could consume brain rot media like Tiktok, Netflix or Instagram to unwind but we all know it's not productive in the long run.

This is not imploring anyone to do it immediately, but in my case, I do side hustle of day trading and market speculation. While I am doing it, I learn as much as I could with how to trade better and reading the stock market news. I am not rich but I get couple of bucks every now and then. On the luckiest of days, I could earn hundreds within days. That supplements my income. It does not always work of course, I had my "bull run" two months ago but the stock market slowed down and declined even due to uncertainty in the market.

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