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[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 2 points 12 hours ago

100% agreed, no notes.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

100% boys need to be taught that they dont inherently deserve dominance over anyone, not of the same gender nor of any other

[–] Jimjim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

"Dominion" will be had by someone... right?

I mean, in time, what hasn't been claimed will be claimed and then someone will have "dominion", right?

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm personally a fan of 'boys will be girls 🏳️‍⚧️'

[–] Jimjim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Fucking lemmy...

[–] NullPointerException@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, I don’t know if like this one. Wouldn’t that imply that people are teaching boys to be girls? Like, it’s all what conservatives say, that it’s an external influence.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah. So? Don't all boys want to be forced into being girls? /j

Do cis people actually take issue with such jokes? I used to like them when I thought I was a cis guy...

To me, their comment read less as them taking personal issue with it and more as them saying not to give people quotes to rally the propagandized nutjobs who will take those quotes at face value.

Not that I agree with that stance because we can't pander to every brand of crazy, but it just didn't seem to me like they personally had an issue with the joke.

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

How you take jokes has nothing to do with your sexuality or gender either

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hey mate, just fyi we don't allow politics in here 🥰

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What does that mean? That statement reads like bullshit/nonsense to me.

[–] NullPointerException@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Sorry. Just passing through.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fuck them, what would be wrong with that? Why let Nazis shape your morality? Maybe you're still not in favor, but decide that on your own fucking terms.

People get all "she who fights monsters should be careful not to become them" shallow ass understanding of Nietzsche when I suggest that fascists are not people, then do straight up 'but what will the Nazis think!?' Pearl clutching.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It should mean things like “boys will bond in silly ways like daring each other to eat gross food combinations or playfighting,” which is valid.

What it ends up meaning is “we, as adults, refuse to actually accept responsibility to teach young kids and will now blame it on ‘nature’” which is egregious and consistently fails the younger generation. It’s frustrating.

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago

Yes. It's true that people can be inherently different, and it's true that you can teach/ socialize them to treat others with respect anyway. Like the doctor studying psychopaths that discovered he himself was a psychopath. He had been taught how to treat people, regardless of his innate ability to empathize.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Human nature" always fucking means that.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 points 12 hours ago

Every time, 100%, no exceptions, I hear someone spout off about what is or is not a "human universal" it takes me less than ten minutes' work to find counterexamples.

Red is not the colour of aggression and anger universally, for example. The "natural" counting system is not base 10. (Note: counting, not numerical representation: that's even more complicated!) Women are not universally the "nurturers" while the men are the "breadwinners/hunters/whatever". Basically ever "human universal" ever named is wrong.

[–] sparkles@piefed.zip 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Essentially. Behavior comes from a few sources. Environmental/learned sources as well as biological. So if it isn’t wired into you, you learned it somewhere. This is true for everyone.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's really really simplified. 'Nature' and 'nurture' are not separate, except things like sneezing, shivering, and blinking.

[–] sparkles@piefed.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course it’s simplified. And that’s exactly what I said. Biological needs include things our bodies do, need, seek. Things that keep us alive.

This is my field, so I always hesitate to comment because I feel like I’m going to nerd out, or have to have this conversation where we get into ontogenetic and phylogenetic stuff.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is do simplified as to be the kind of thing that fuels dipshit misinformation–maybe you don't talk to a lot of idiots, but I do.

And I for one would be pretty enthusiastic to read an expert nerding out. Sound off in the comments; anyone NOT interested in reading this jerk nerd out?

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 14 points 2 days ago

I had a buddy who'd make me a perfect latté exactly how I liked it every morning I slept over. We should teach all the boys how to use an espresso machine.

[–] arendjr@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Can’t we just teach them to be nice boys? Sometimes easier said than done, I know.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ooh, that's my biggest beef with humanity: we most definitely can. The percentage of "born destructive" people is fairly low, and most dumb shit done by humans is something they learned to do (doing here includes thinking and emoting)

But for some reason it still has not happened

[–] arendjr@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry if I’m jumping on a tangent here, I may have been triggered 😅

I don’t really agree with the premise that it hasn’t happened yet. Not only are there few people with truly destructive tendencies, but I see most kids (regardless of gender) being raised quite nicely. Sure they may still do stupid stuff sometimes (who doesn’t?) but that doesn’t take away from them being nice overall.

In my mind, the biggest beef with humanity is apathy/nihilism. Some people truly believe their actions have no consequences or if they do they don’t care about them. To me, this is a failure in education and one I attribute to a lack of spiritual awareness. Indeed thinking and emoting are part of that as acts of our inner spirit.

This is the reason I started my Philosophy of Balance blog, hoping to inspire people to become more aware of themselves and their actions again.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

By all means, do be triggered and jump on the train :)

It hasn't happened yet by a lot of metrics:

do I see humanity neglecting every other life on the planet? - yes

do I see idiots with power and ideas like "let's wage war/pretend there is no gender/race-based discrimation" etc get instantly torn apart (literally) - no

do I see people who look like they believe their actions have no consequences - yes

... and this list can go on

Thing is, humanity is many thousands years old, I am in my thirties. When most people still don't get what I have already - this is a failure

*important note: there is still work being done in this regard every day, which is no small feat

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Best I can do is an algorithm to turn them into andrew-tate-with-a-chin

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

Basic truth supported by all evidence.