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See, I find, that "critically acclaimed" and "popular" usually don't go well together. However, something with just critical acclaim from people I like (and sometimes a Criterion release) tends to be some of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed.
But to the meme's point, Tarkovsky's Solaris was boring, and hard to understand for me, so much so I didn't ever finish it. I'll have to try again maybe from a different perspective.
I actually enjoyed Solaris a ton for its pacing. It’s controversial understandably, but it felt like the story was moving at a real world pace, rather than the modern approach of one moment of action to the next.
It’s a slow burn, for sure and I wouldn’t say it’s for everyone.
Read the book. Seriously, Lem's depictions of all things alien are orders of magnitude better than any movie - even modern CGI - can be. (I watched the Tarkovsky movie after reading the book and wasn't impressed either)
You are supposed to be bored. His films are contemplative. They are also very Russian.
Stalker is even better/worse.
I really do appreciate art, but like anything meaningful, such things usually deserve more time to appreciate. I'll come around to it with time.
KPop Demon Hunters came out this year.
It sounds like a cheesy kids' movie. It even kinda looks like one. Or, at least, before it got super popular when everybody realised "hey, this movie is actually really good" and started playing the soundtrack nonstop between viewings. And not just little kids, middle-aged people like it, too. I've been watching and loving movies for about 40 years, and I remember seeing Mortal Kombat (1995) in theaters, and being just floored by that opening. Cheesy yes, but techno music with sound bytes from the game (the Super NES/Genesis game!) while flames roasted the dragon logo? Movie intros usually aren't that cool. Movies aren't meant to be a thrill ride. They play the long con. KPop Demon Hunters was the first one in a long time (I guess 30 years) that gave me the same feeling. I felt it when the first song hit. Then the scenes with the light flashing in the plane windows. I knew I was in for one hell of a ride. I've seen it four or five times now, and it doesn't get old. It may not be good like a Scorcese or Tarantino movie, but it's fun, and that's good. It's more fun than all the recent-ish Star Wars movies. I remember when those were fun. Someone lost the memo.
Movies don't have to be good if they're fun. A lot of people liked Minecraft, Five Nights at Freddy's, The Emoji Movie... I haven't seen any of them. But KPop Demon Hunters looked pretty stupid, too, until I gave it a chance. If a movie makes you forget about the bad shit in the world for a couple hours, it's done its job. Let's stop asking much more than that from movies. Sure, I have a niche I absolutely love (smart/weird flicks like I Origins, Predestination, Donnie Darko... even if they're pseudo-intellectual, if I can dig into it, I love that shit) but a fun dumb movie is cool in my books.
If a movie makes you forget about the bad shit in the world for a couple hours, it’s done its job. Let’s stop asking much more than that from movies.
Never underestimate entertainment value. All art is also always part entertainment. Never forget that.
We compare the slop of the present to the masterpieces of the past because we don't remember the slop of the past.
Survivorship bias but with movies
I'll try to be generous to your meme but it's hard. I'll say I used to be like that, part of the majority who thought going to a movie meant it needed to have action, a superhero, or magic. It gets tiring and repetitive though.
A recent example was train dreams. Me 10 years ago would have called it a snore fest. Now? I have much more respect for movies and it ripped me up inside. So this meme is very subjective on the individual
Same. If I see people complaining about a movie being slow and boring 9/10 times I’ll love it
It's not just you, my friend.
Among many movies, I felt that way about Killers of the Flower Moon and it literally took me to fall into a random convo with the girl who cleans my office at work before I found a like-minded individual.
That movie and The Irishman were piss, but everybody insists they are masterpieces because Scorsese made them. Scorsese is just like James Cameron and Fancis Ford Coppola where they have reached an age and are so accomplished that they have lost touch with the world and are surrounded by yes men who don't dare tell them no. And so they make very long and very shitty movies that are more for themselves than they are for anybody else. At least, Cameron is able to make his avatar slop entertaining while you're watching it even if it is forgettable af.
Killers of the Flower Moon was particularly infuriating for me because it was so clearly just Scorsese making yet another movie about white men who are shitty, while pushing the native Americans off to the wayside as supporting casts in the movie that was supposed to be about them.
I read the book too because people kept telling me my opinion was wrong and that this was a good movie that is very faithful to the book. Well, clearly every person who claimed this, did not read the book because the book very much stays with the native Americans and their perspective and the case is treated the way it normally would when you have a conspiracy/murder mystery. You get invested in this people, you fear for them and the revelations are horrible.
Scorsese was like: how about we make the movie entirely about the bad guys and we have no reveals ever because we are told exactly what and how things happen from the start and treat the native Americans like they are ignorant, brain dead idiots who fall for the easiest trick in the book? Yeah, let's do that. Let's make the natives stupid and naive and have the conmen be super obviously evil and gross too, to the point that we don't understand how any of these native Americans could have ever called them friend or family. Let's race swap the only nice white man in the movie too. He was native American in real life,, but for whatever reason they made him white in the movie. I still don't know why they did that. I thought this was supposed to be authentic to real life. We do not race swap historical figures. I thought we all agreed that it was dumb when they made Anne Boleyn black. It's also dumb when we make a native American man white in a movie about how white men committed systematic murders on native Americans to get their money.
Oh, let's also make the movie 4 hours long and throw a temper tantrum when cinemas around the world implement intermissions so that movie goers have a chance to pee and get refreshments. No no, this slop is ART and Scorsese-manchild wants you to sit through all 4 hours of his slop because it's his movie.
Piss movie. I hated it so much and nobody agreed with me until I spoke to my cleaning lady who completely understood where I was coming from.
The book is so much better. Such a well crafted blueprint for a suspenseful movie or TV show about a horrific chapter in native American history and how oil money attracts all the predators and vultures in the world to eat you and your family until nothing is left. Not even bone fragments.
But no. Scorsese cannot make movies from any other perspective than that of white men with corrupt souls so, sorry, native Americans. You gotta be supporting casts in your own friggin story.
Amazing. Piss movie. It riles me up everytime I think about it and it riles me up even more how much undeserved praise it recieved. Piss. Movie.
This happens a lot with old movies.
A film comes out that's revolutionary, so every film after it copies it. Future eyes lack that context, so they just see something that looks like everything else they've seen.
Citizen Kane is a good example. The writing, editing, and cinematography were revolutionary at the time. But, through a modern lens, it appears very ordinary because it's very similar to every copycat that followed it.
I liked that sci-fi movie where they poked a rocket at the moon. After that it all went downhill.
Seriously, your meme is too broad. Always happy to complain about something specific though.
For me it's Gravity (the one with Sandra Bullock crying in space) and the last two Nolan Batman films. I just don't understand why people like them so much.
Frankenstein was pretty damn good imo.
It was, and that is one of the worst movies I've seen from Guillermo Del Toro IMO. If you enjoyed his adaptation of Frankenstein, you're doing yourself a disservice if you haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth or The Devil's Backbone. Depends on if you're okay watching subtitled, though.
Or motherfucking Pacific Rim. That movie is literally just "big robot go boom" and it's fuckin awesome.
Crimson Peak was pretty meh imo. The visuals were interesting, and I liked the designs of the ghosts.
I haven't watched Frankenstein yet but I want to. Stupid Netflix.
I watched "Hugo" because it was so critically acclaimed. It had all the awards. Critics loved it.....
Most boring, pretentious, film-school self-masturbatory slog I've ever watched.
The plot was either boring or incoherent. There a boy in a train station? And now there's a steampunk robot who... draws movies or something? And some old dude in a shitty apartment has a bunch of obscure history films? What tf are we doing? And the robot is magic now?
The only reason it got high marks is so every critic to wax themselves about how bigbrain cultured they are. The totally got all the niche nods/ode/references and it totally justified their bullshit college degrees.....
You watched a children's adventure comedy movie and surprised it's a but nonsensical? Unless the critics sold it as something it's not, I think this one is in you 😄
I saw bits when a flatmate watched it and it was not being treated like a movie aimed at children. Looked dull as dishwater.
A few of my friends recommended Eraserhead. It felt like David Lynch was seeing what he could get away with.
Eraserhead isn’t a movie to be enjoyed, it’s a movie to be regretted, for the rest of your life….
fun fact: that’s a real horse embryo
Another fun fact: it was based on Lynch's feelings of becoming a father to a baby with deformed feet. His daughter's feet are ok now, they have a good relationship and she became a film director too!
I absolutely love David Lynch, but Eraserhead is not the first, second nor third Lynch movie I would put on at any given time. I love the radiator girl segment in the film. The rest is forgettable.
I'm more of a Mulholland Drive fangirl. It is one of the best movies ever made in my humble opinion.
Someone also mentioned Elephant Man which is likewise a stellar movie.
I feel this way about Synecdoche, New York, with the caveat that I understand it but just think it's hot garbage.
I recently watched it for the first time and loved it. The disjointed flow of it worked for me as a mechanism to immerse in an experience of a person's life. Like a speedrun. The themes - including never really launching into life, seeking to but never really connecting with others except post-facto, struggling to understand and metabolize losses, breaching out of the self - all resonated with me so that helped.
This was Everything Everywhere All At Once for me. Normally I'm pretty easy to please but this one fell completely flat
I liked the movie, but people sold it as this incredibly weird and awesome masterpiece. I think my expectations were just way too high.
To be fair, part of the premise of that movie is to immerse yourself in absurd ideas in parallel universes... for reasons. So it's not surprising that it gets confusing.
I'm bitter and old, AND movies have gotten worse. All those things are true.
I have better now luck with TV shows. Currently, Pluribus is good.
I'm on here now, because I couldn't find anything to watch tonight. I'm hoping One Battle After Another is good, we'll see. Often, I turn off a new movie less than 15 minutes in.
Not sure if memes are allowed here. Apologies if they aren’t.
We allow memes occasionally. Tagged post under "Humor".
Tagged post under "Humor".
That's pretty generous
Spielberg's A.I. Artificial Intelligence.
Mostly I just wondered why the movie was made in the first place. Sure, examining the tragedy of creating an intelligent being that cannot mature and cannot let go of emotional attachments by design is interesting... but the meandering, pointless story had like three places it could have ended and just ..... didn't, finally topping it off with a 'bittersweet' ending that seemingly had no purpose besides to give some catharsis to the audience despite being so out of left field that it had no relation to the rest of the story. It could have been an art book showing off the scenery instead of bothering to throw an aimlessly wandering robot child into it.
It was a movie that Kubrick and Spielberg both thought the other guy would be able to make it work. So they passed it back and forth. The scenes you think Kubrick came up with, were actually things Spielberg came up with and vice versa. "Here's a scene you'd be the perfect director to make, you should direct this movie!" So it's a mix between what Spielberg thought Kubrick should do and what Kubrick thought Spielberg should do.
Neither of them could make it work. But Kubrick died and Spielberg felt he had to finish it. It's an interesting movie to see what each director wanted the other director to do, but it's not a great movie to just sit and enjoy as a movie.
Hey now, Crash came out like twenty years ago.
I watch very few movies but when I do, my opinon of it generally the opposite of the critic's review on Rotten Tomatoes.
II hate bitching about RT scores but some of them are just staggering to me.
28 years later is one of the worst movies I have ever seen and it is highly rated on RT.
If you wanna watch movies that actually feel like art just watch sexploitation films (whats funny is they are less perverted than most modern pg 13 films) Apparently sexploitation means exploiting the audience by using sex to grab their attention, so like game of thrones, shameless, outlander, even modern family, etc. lol. I always thought it meant the actors got abused or some sht, but they're still alive and that doesn't seem to be the case for the most part.
A lot of them are surreal af and feel like time capsules. Plots super basic, barely any characters, but the scenery is sometimes amazing, like every place they film I want to visit. They are weirdly memorable for their scenes while I could not tell you a single movies name. I think the horniest one ive seen is no where near as horny as modern movies/television that aren't framed as sexploitive.