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[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 67 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Theory - mass media creates the narrative that witches in the US are Devil worshippers, often with a pretty manly depiction of the Devil, thereby trying to enforce that they “derive their power from their relationship to a man”.

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 26 points 2 months ago

Yes, but that is hardly new. The church already did that in the middle ages and afterwards during the witch hunts.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I remember this happening when I was a teen, and there are still many women I know into it.

My mother was a self proclaimed witch since the 80's/90's, and told me as a child fairies were real, and constantly told me I "had psychic powers." She read my cards and all that. It fucked me up wholly, and pushed me to science and fact. It's not for me, and I don't understand the fascination. But, if it makes other women happy, it's really harmless.

[–] halfsalesman@piefed.social 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

it’s really harmless.

No its not. Belief in bullshit has negative consequences for the individual, their friends and family, and society as a whole.

Now, is it comparatively less harmful than some other things they could believe in? Absolutely but its still bad.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 months ago (8 children)

This is an ironically anti-intellectual way to engage with it. Magic isnt real, but knowledge on the natural world and medicine has been maintained through cultural practices like "witchcraft" in the past. Even beyond that, there's knowledge gained for young women in a patriarchal society when they develop relationships with other women and identify with a group that is explicitly counter-cultural on the basis of women empowerment.

Knowledge isn't just facts, it's skills and introspection. Belief in something "bullshit" is often necessary to learn something that is not "bullshit." We teach kids scientifically inaccurate information when they are young because they dont have a basis of knowledge that would enable more nuanced and accurate understandings. They "believe" in something like three states of matter and two genders/sexes because we judge that as a necessary belief to foster the skills that will enable them to learn the reality of these things later.

If they gained self - understanding and empowerment through this phase, then it isn't bullshit. You should challenge this doomerism.

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[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago

I was tryin to have good grace here

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know some people do it as a hobby/curiosity/passion/personality thing. They don't actually believe it, but it's fun and looks cool. That's harmless. The people who believe it's real though? That's not as harmless. It makes you less engaged with reality and fact, and maybe you won't participate in actual work to fix things because you think your magic is just as good, or better.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 months ago

because being in a coven with amazing women is preferable than being near high school boys.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 28 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Is this just girls?

Am boy, had a witchy phase

[–] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll say it: adult witches are hot

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Isn't it assumed that witches get their power from the devil?

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I think that’s a generally Christian-centric view (which describes anything non-Jesus as the devil). As far as Pagan witches are concerned they could get their power from any number of gods/goddesses, or even from nature herself.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is new info to me, so not sure who else, but Paganism isn't a single system. It's anything the Christians were trying to erase in Europe. The wildly varying descriptions occur because it was just the negative terms applied to any other group. Going to church is a ritual. Consuming eucharist is a ritual. Priests are channels to their god. Hyms are chants. Prayers are incantations. All just negative terms applied to the out groups.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So warlocks and clerics are just made up distinctions of the same thing? /j

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Different spell lists, but yeah basically

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I didn't want to disempower women, or anything like that. I know that this was merely the christiannarrative of witches.

Kind of interesting, though that the male-centric christian church had to invent a male figure which gives the witch her power.

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When Ezekiel raises the dead, it's a blessing from god. But when I do it...

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I see nothing wrong with this. Please, continue and praise Satan.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (9 children)

I'd understand if I get skewered for this but people who don't leave the witchcraft stuff behind when they grow up are on par with disney adults and hardcore weebs. I used to think I could gather chi to perform powerful attacks but if I still thought that, people would rightfully make fun of me.

This opinion is gender neutral but I'm always afraid to express it because it might come across as misogyny.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 35 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I think there's a difference between "these rituals and metaphors help me deal with the struggles of the world" and "yo I totally hexed him that's why he got the flu".

The former is pretty harmless. Some people meditate. Some people lift weights. Some people draw cards from a deck and reflect on how they feel about getting The Tower when they asked about their boyfriend. It's just a lens to focus your thoughts.

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[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I love to collect herbs. But I hate to tell people about that because just after then, I ccan discover how much people love to believe in "cancer curing herbal medicine".

My father once suggested a toxic plant is great for health.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It sucks when a hobby you like is full of weirdos. I've been looking into both solar panels and getting rid of a lot of my lawn but SEVERAL times I've been watching a video and the host drops something about homeschooling or religion. I just wanted tips on growing potatoes, man.

[–] Naho_Zako@piefed.zip 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

RIP, same. I've sometimes dreamed about having some big-ass pretty garden and getting fruits and veggies from it, so my mom and I like to watch cool shit like people's giant greenhouse homes. And then you'll hear some tradwife and homeschooling shit in there and just get sad.

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[–] rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio 11 points 2 months ago (7 children)

people who don’t leave the witchcraft stuff behind when they grow up are on par with disney adults and hardcore weebs

People with harmless hobbies? I see no problem with this. Why would a self-respecting adult care if others cringe at their interests?

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The undead are safer to be around than a man.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But what about undead vs a bear?

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Meanwhile wizards: "BEHOLD MY STAFF OF POWER", "I'm pondering the SPHERES", "KNEEL BEFORE MY MIGHTY ROD".

Jokes aside, that is a culture thing - if my rather tattered memory serves, historically, a lot of magic was pact magic (asking someone else for power in exchange). Necromancy was a little different (before its conflation with "nigromancy" by the church in medieval times) and in its earlier incarnation generally involved a "descent" into the underworld via a gate (of which there were many) and so was almost "adventure magic". These ancient holy sites were venerated rather than shunned and, again memory is patchy here, generally held an oracle (i.e. a witch).

So, fun fact of the day, if you go caving in the right place you're technically a necromancer.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Or, maybe because it's just cool. Might be a super controversial thing to say, but it's pretty much proven that boys and girls tend to gravitate towards certain elements.

So boys go through a phase where they are crazy about dinosaurs. Girls it's witchcraft.

This isn't a universal constant, however, as neither of my sisters have been into witchcraft, and I know one woman who's really into dinosaurs.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

And sometimes it's both...

My 4 year old ran around in a dinosaur costume yelling "Abra Dabra" last week.

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[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Fantasy is fun?

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (44 children)

Even into adulthood, they love bullshit like horoscopes and blood types (the latter more prominent in Japan).

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately false if I remember my mythology correctly. Aren't witches granted their power as a result of their deal with Satan?

[–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Another comment above addressed this: the “power via pact with Satan” is how Christians present witches, but not really how witches conceive of themselves

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[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

There's also something to be said about gaining power from the moon because it aligns with our bodies' natural rhythms as well.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

When I was a kid girls went through a horse obsession phase. Boys had one with cars or dinosaurs.

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