Thats... Thats like a flat earther in computer stuff.
Do those really exist??
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I know it gets thrown around a lot, but the Dunning-Kruger effect is real and applicable to people in all fields.
No matter how fanboi-y a Linux or Apple user gets, they can never out fanboi a Microsoft fanboi. They take making shit up about competitors to a entirely new level.
Meanwhile Microsoft makes the start menu with React
I try not to let considerations get in the way of doing great work.
"I am a react developer"
I thought we are supposed to be language-agnostic after 3rd project.
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Electron is the only cross platform gui toolkit...
If you ignore QT, GTK and everything else.
I'm so glad that Microsoft makes an awesome cross platfor--- wait, no, but they contribute code to--- hmmm ... Hey, what does Microsoft do to make apps more portable again?
The real reasons often are:
- They want be able to hire much cheaper webdevs instead of software devs.
- Electron has a lot of built-in data collecting metrics, which they urgently need for creating a real-life KITT.
- Easy live embedding of content. Sure you can add your own solution, in fact I created ETML as a solution for this problem for my engine, all without any support for nasty scripting languages or convoluted stylesheets (style-inheritance in CSS turned me off from webdev even more than JS did). At best, it can be used for things like embedding videos on Discord, because no one else thought some universal approach, let alone one that disallows proprietary players. At worst, it's being used for ads.
Also a lot of Windows-only apps are Electron apps, only because the manufacturer wants to go "fuck you", even putting protections into the code just in case you wanted to run it on Linux.
EDIT: Forgot the "live embeds" reason.
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one of the funniest (and sadly accurate) things i've heard said about linux backwards-compatibility is that its most stable API is Win32. you can run really old windows software on wine because they support stuff even windows doesn't anymore.
of course this is because the expectation is that you can just recompile old software to work on new systems, which is not really a thing on window.s
It's so portable! With maximal efforts we support both windows 7, windows 8.1 (but not 8.0), windiws 10 and soon Windows 11 !!!
/s
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Tell me you have no idea how software development works without saying it...
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Lame attempt at ragebait.
that's a lot of words to basically say "i'm a fucking idiot".
What kind of shit for brains asshole is still defending Windows in 2025?
And what kind of slavering mouth-breathing teoglodyte doesn't understand that Hannah Montana Linux negates all of these issues, will suck your dixk without hesitation, and lets you read news from four days from now.
Aren't Qt and GTK cross platform? I have Dolphin and Kate running on my Windows work laptop.
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(Apple as a platform is so closed that it couldn't be influenced by this utter crap and the developers can use the OS native API's.)
A hidden gem of stupidity and nonsense in the already pretty dumb tirade.
Wow, that's some serious misinformation.
Show me how you never programmed anything without telling me
Software should be maintained, not built and forgotten about. Windows encourages the latter, which is just straight up bad practice
Fairly large chunks of Windows code are examples of the latter, in fact.
You dont even have to look at the code to see this. Just make one wrong click in a UI and youre directly getting dragged into a UI that hasn't changed since Windows XP.
But that's always a good sign that you've dug into the part that actually still works consistently! Once you pop some Windows 2000 era UI you know you've struck gold and need to note the path for next time (until Microsoft rearranges their settings for the 5th time this year of course)
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I hate the Windows API so much. There are like 100 million function that all start with a capital letter and take a kajillion arguments just to do the most simple thing imaginable (see CreateThread). And there are twenty different typedefs for the same type (PSTR, LPSTR, tchar* all point to char*). Also all variables and function arguments should start with their types, like hWindow if the window is a HANDLE.
I hate this joke of a programming interface so much, I hope everyone sticks to programming with POSIX and platform-agnostic libraries.
EDIT: And also, did I mention that if you want to use it, you get all of it or none of it? It's literally a single header file named Windows.h. You get just that and take it or leave it.
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This is such a hilariously bad take. I like how "I can't use Win32 on Linux" morphed into "re-write the whole app in Javascript just so I can use Electron."
Meanwhile, Wine and QT are like: "am I a joke to you?"
I'll add that (IMO) a lot of applications are becoming increasingly malicious, although less-so in the desktop space. I'm happy that devs like this are forced to quasi-sandbox their crap into a browser. Actually, if anyone knows how to crack into an Electron app in order to restore local plugins, user-scripts, and sandbox security controls, let me know. Or just liberate the guts into a local web app instead so I can use a real browser? This trend could be very useful for local security if those features become available.
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He's a magician, because reading this, I aged 10 years and grew a metastatic tumor.
They must really like the taste of leather.
No.
They like the texture of leather.
Its the polish that provides the taste.
This is what too much windows does to your brain kids.
Every operating system contributed to the bloat. Windows has Win32, OS X has Carbon / Cocoa, Linux has X11 and various widget libs that sit on top of it. So it has been a perennial nut to crack to make cross platform widgets - wxWidgets, QT, SWT/JWT/Swing on Java, XMLShell (Firefox), Electron, GTK/GTK#, winelib etc.
Throw mobile platforms into the mix and it's an unholy mess. Lowest common denominator is HTML and so the likes of Electron "wins" even though it's bloated and slow.
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I'm pretty sure you guys just took the bait. This is either satire or ragebait.
There is no way to be sure. Either case, it can be a case of Hanlon's razor. "Never attribute to malice [in this case: baiting] what can sufficiently be explained by stupidity".
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The real reason is it's a pain in the ass to deploy software in Windows. It's not like you can easily set up a server and put some packages on and have it just automatically apt update to that. Sure there's some "Enterprise" servers you could set up (and pay license fees for) that might work somewhat like that, but it's easier to just make it a web app and deploy to an internet webserver.
For product distribution, you need someone download an .exe, hope a virus scanner won't block it, maybe pay microsoft to sign it or whatever, hope the user has a compatible version of windows, and maybe they can get some working software. But then you have to make some mechanism to handle updates and hopefully that doesn't get blocked by some security software. So it's easier to make your software a web application.
Also putting out windows native applications means you might not be able to enshittify it later since people could continue to use the old version forever. It's weird to assume enshittification happens accidentally, but it's actually what some companies want to do their software because $$$. They want applications they can enshitty later, they don't make applications that may work on linux and whoopsie it just somehow got enshittified because of that... somehow.
But many times it's just best solution. If an application doesn't need access to anything on my system, I'd rather it be a web app. App does the thing I need, and when I'm done, I close the tab and we're done. Why install more software on my system if I don't need to?
You need to put this in clear [JOKE] tags, otherwise they'll never get it.
Someone obviously missed their nap and is having a tantrum.
I welcome other's input but I thought this was a pretty clear cut case of Mac becoming popular. Why write a program for Windows and Mac when you can just make a website. Then Chromebooks in education sealed the deal.
Linux is only starting mainstream use now because of Europe's push for digital sovereignty and windows 10 end of life.
Amongst the apps mentioned as bloated on Windows were Teams, Discord (major offender) and WhatsApp. The latter is a curious case because a Universal Windows app existed (now being deprecated I guess?) that was more memory efficient than the Web wrapper.
And in case, someone in interested there is a terminal client for WhatsApp (and Telegram) called nchat. Sure, it is not at feature parity with web client (images is a big problem, for obvious reasons) but the simple fact that a third party client taking so little resources exists is a damning indictment of Meta. It shows that resource efficient clients are possible (provided the parent company junks the metaverse).
Since when has competition ever spurred innovation? Pff
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