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RAM prices soar, but popular Windows 11 apps are using more RAM due to Electron, Web components
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Thank Google for those cool products.
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Electron was originally developed by GitHub for a text editor called Atom.
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what's google got to do with it? this is an article about a product develeped at GitHub (now a microsoft subsidiary) causing problems with Windows and the thumbnail is showing produts from the following companies:
- discord
- microsoft
- microsoft
- microsoft
- microsoft
like. look. i hate google. they partner with israel to conduct genocide (don't use waze, btw, or better yet, don't use any google products). but this seems like not looking at the whole of how evil all of big tech is just to focus on how evil one company in big tech is
CoMaps is a good alternative to Waze. If you think it isnt make an OSM account and help make it a good alternative :p
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The article mentions Chrome/Chromium: 9 times
The article mentions Google: 0 times
Google made Chrome. Chrome had that multi-process architecture at its core which allowed to consume as much memory as needed even on 32-bit OS. Chromium was always inside it and open source. Then they created CEF, which allowed webdevs to build "real" apps, and that opened the floodgates. Electron was first built on it but they wanted to include Node and couldn't because it required too much experience in actual coding. So they switched to Chromium. It didn't change much in the structure, just basically invited more webdevs to build more "real" apps (at 1.0 release Electron advertised hundreds of apps built with it on its website).
Google could do something about how the web engine works in frameworks (that don't need that much actual web functionality), but didn't. They invited webdevs to do anything they want. Webdevs didn't care about security because mighty Google would just publish new Chromium update eventually. They never realized they don't need more security in their local "real" apps gui that connect to their websites because there is not much room for security danger in such scenarios. They just always updated the underlying engine because why not. Chromium dll is now at 300 mb or something? All of that code is much needed by everyone, is it not?
So, for me the sequence was always seen as this:
Google (caring about webdevs, not OS) ->
Webdevs (not caring about native code and wanting to sell their startup websites by building apps) ->
Reckless web development becoming a norm for desktop apps ->
Corporations not seeing problems with the above (e.g. Microsoft embedding more stuff with WebView2 aka Chromium)
So yes, Google has everything to do with it because it provided all the bad instruments to all the wrong people.
Personally, I don't care much about hating Microsoft anymore because its products are dead to me and I can only see my future PCs using Linux.
I have couple of old 8 gb sticks from my old 960 GPU pc. Is there any way for me to stick it onto my new pc and have only certain app use it and nothing else?
Only for multi CPU mobos (and that would be pinning a thread to a CPU/core with NUMA enabled where a task accessed local ram instead of all system ram). Even then, I think all ram would run at the lowest frequency.
I've never mixed CPUs and RAM speeds. I've only ever worked on systems with matching CPUs and ram modules.
I think the hardware cost and software complexity to achieve this is beyond the cost of "more ram" or "faster storage (for faster swap)"
As to whether it's possible to get certain apps use specific physical RAM sticks, I am not sure, but that seems unlikely and would probably require some very low level modifications to your operating system. But even before you get to that point you'd have to physically connect them to your new motherboard, which will only work if there are both free RAM slots on it, and your new motherboard has slots for the same generation of RAM that your old PC uses.
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Way ahead of you Luddites
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https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/ukwjwa/anyone_remember_this_scam/
first link died for some reason, probably not enough RAM
This isn't news lol
I mostly use terminal-based software on Linux.
I think that the only programs I use much that embed a web browser are:
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Firefox
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Steam
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Some games that are Web-based and which I only run one of at once (Neo Scavenger, some RPGMaker-based games, probably some others).
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Electron is a f…ing cancer for Desktop
I'm tired of this! How can we start our own RAM foundry--is that the right term? Surely there's a YT tutorial somewhere.
The latest semiconductor manufacturer specializing in RAM is ChangXin Memory Technologies
As of 2019, CXMT had over 3,000 employees, and runs a fab with a 65,000 square meters clean room space. Over 70% of its employees are engineers working on various research and development related projects. CXMT uses its 10G1 process technology (aka 19 nm) to make 4 Gb (gigabit) and 8 Gb DDR4 memory chips. It has licensed intellectual property originally created by Qimonda.
So... whatever that costs. Although, I think this wiki is a bit behind the times, as they've got DDR5-8000 memory in flight according to TechInsights.
It must take so much R&D to achieve anything remotely comparable to what Samsung, Micron (/Crucial... RIP) and SK Hynix can produce.
Fingers crossed they can either undercut the 3(now 2) big producers, which is doubtful. But hopefully they can help reduce the maximum price that decent memory can inflate to. Because at some point a medium sized customer is gonna get fed up of the Samsung/micron/skHynix bullshit, and custom order the ram they need, and such a smaller producer will provide a much better service for a similar price
The miracle of the Chinese Economy (and, really, all the BRICS countries) has been their willingness to educate and industrialize their population.
Yeah, it takes a ton of R&D, but when you've got 1.4B people you're going to sift out a few who can get the job done. India's Tata is already building their own semiconductor facilities. Brazil's semiconductor sector has been struggling to break into the global market for... decades. Russia's so sanctioned that they've got no choice but to go in-house. South Africa is finally building industrial facilities to match their role in the raw materials supply chain.
I would suspect this crunch in the global market is going to incentivize a ton of international investment in manufacturing entirely to meet domestic demand. And heaven help us all if there's an actual flashpoint in the Pacific Rim, because that'll shut down the transit that companies like TSM and Broadcomm need to produce at current scales.
I just wouldn't hold my breath, especially under the current protectionist political environment. You're not going to be buying outside of the US sphere of influence any time soon.
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Big RAM hates this one little trick!