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[–] python@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Like apparently everyone else, I moved to Linux Mint and have been loving it! It really is easy to use, but I've also realized that my technical knowledge is at a point where I really don't need it to be easy. Like, I've always considered myself kinda tech illiterate in comparison to the people I'm around (I'm a software engineer who specializes in JavaScript/React, but I'm around Rust devs and people who set up docker containers for fun) but apparently just being comfortable using the console is far above what the average user will do. I think there was an xkcd about this kind of phenomenon

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 14 points 6 days ago

This is the absolutely perfect way to describe what it's like listening to Linux fans give advice to newcomers.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Eh. I installed Linux Mint this weekend because I was sick of Microsoft's bullshit and I had to connect my PC to my router with an Ethernet cable to install a driver for my wifi adapter from the terminal. I am quite tech savvy and was very comfortable with this whole process and it took no time at all, but my wife who knows barely anything about computers would have probably given up the moment the Internet didn't work when Mint installed. Most people use routers that they rent for too much money from their ISPs and don't even know you can plug shit into the backs of those routers yourself. The moment the wifi doesn't work on the new OS even though the password is right, it's game over for their ability to troubleshoot it. That is why Linux won't get normies on it anytime soon. After that my experience has been extremely smooth and I have been able to do anything I've wanted to do without touching the terminal (although I prefer terminal commands), but that initial hurdle is just way too much to expect from the average person who just wants to get on Netflix and Facebook asap.

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[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Yeah, the average user doesn't want to do scary console shit. Linux won't replace windows until people don't need to type console commands.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

People don't need to type console commands. They're just the easiest way to tell someone how to do something in text.

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[–] python@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Which is kinda sad. The console always feels like a more precise way to deal with a problem. So it's like people are saying "Using a mouse is too scary, I'd rather use a WiiMote while wearing mittens"

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 3 points 6 days ago

It's more than that, too. Even when there are GUI things (like the network manager in my system now) the GUIs are badly designed (because it turns out that UX design is an actual, learnable, technical field!), and, further, inconsistent from one piece to another so there's little in the way of shared learning. When you learn one of these little GUI utilities you've learned ... that one ... GUI ... utility.

At that point you might as well be typing stuff like ls -laR ~/Documents | awk '{print $9}' | grep -v '^\.' | xargs -I{} file {} | grep -i 'ascii\|unicode\|utf' | cut -d: -f1 | xargs -I{} sh -c 'head -n 5 "{}" | nl -ba -s": " | sed "s/^/$(basename {}): /"' | less -N

(Fake command line supplied by long-suffering SO who got a kick out of making something incredibly stupid.)

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[–] drphungky@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I'm glad you've had a good go of it. I've been very unimpressed with Linux Mint. I expected it to be fiddly, I didn't expect it to just...not work out of the box. Like freezing up on the initial screens as part of the welcome tour? Baked in features like linking up with Google drive just...not working? Losing sound in games when messaged on discord, the de facto standard for side by side gaming audio? And all of these issues reported multiple times in multiple forums, with like 8 different solutions proposed depending on who you asked, with a healthy amount of "well that's not a problem, it must be your machine's fault" when it's happening to multiple people?

I fixed some of the issues after serious googling, and I'll get it working fully eventually, but I could never in a million years recommend it to someone unless they shared my desire to go mostly open source with high privacy, or were very tech-savvy. I even thought it would be a scenario like, I play admin and get things set up, then can hand off a working computer to my wife or daughter. Not a chance for the wife, and we are going to really need to keep leaning into programming for the kiddo. Maybe she'll be a tech whiz who likes fixing things, but if she needs something reliable for school some day it'll be a Chromebook or (gross) a Mac.

It's customizable as hell, it's free and open-source, and it's helping my computer skills, so I'll keep going with it for sure. But if I didn't love learning and problem solving and simultaneously have HUGE issues with privacy and Windows whole direction... I can't imagine sticking with it.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I used windows 11 for too damn long before switching to Mint. I feel like I already damned myself.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Wash yourself in the soothing glow of Mint's DE and be born again!

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[–] Walleby@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 6 days ago (9 children)

I‘ve switched to Linux mint. 95% of my time I am using it instead of Windows and this is just because of that stupid kernel anti cheat software…

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[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Finally converted the last computer in my house from Windows to Linux. My wife was the last holdout and she's been loving her Linux machine.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 10 points 6 days ago

Breaking the preview pane in the final update for windows 10 was a nice touch.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 days ago
[–] gabor_legrady@lemmy.org 4 points 6 days ago

I have used MS for years and also interacting with linux based server systems daily. I do stick with windows, but I also disable most of AI related features (I used auto captioning in some cases). While I use AI daily it is a local sandboxed instance. I think they should focus on other areas, but every tech company is FOMO on AI.

[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 6 points 6 days ago

And vast majority would rather become ransomware targets than try Windows alternatives.

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