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Do we really need West and South when we can use negative North and negative East?

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[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why do we have subtraction when we can just add a negative number?

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Isn't that exactly how computers work?

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So you'd have states like North Dakota and Negative North Dakota?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

The Negative shall rise again!

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Why do we have down when we can just use negative up?

[–] calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 107 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the idea of directions came before the idea of negative.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Walking backward is just walking negatively forward by another name

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

Just guessing here, but I would think it's for for clarity and brevity. West and South are shorter to say and distinct enough to avoid being easily misheard causing somebody to go in the opposite direction than intended.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Why do we have 2 separate words for good and bad? Good and ungood are totally sufficient.

(reference)

[–] dbx12@programming.dev 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Spin it further and get rid of "great" and "outstanding". I suggest using plus good and double plus good.

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[–] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's actually how it works in Irish. The word for good is deas, while the word for bad is deas prefixed with the negating particle , so mídheas.

(There are still separate words for tge cardinal directions).

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

Is it? I tried checking in a dictionary but it didn't list mídheas as a word and "deas" was defined as right/nice/honest, not just "good"

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[–] markz@suppo.fi 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] colourlesspony@pawb.social 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly, we don't need to be right at all.

[–] 667@lemmy.radio 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Clockwise and anticounterclockwise

[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Double plus ungood

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I dunno. That seems double plus ungood to me.

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[–] droning_in_my_ears@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why do we have 26 letters? Why not just communicate in binary!

01010100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110110 01100101 01110010 01111001 00100000 01101110 01100001 01110100 01110101 01110010 01100001 01101100 00100001

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

On the other hand, 8000+ characters seems kinda fun...

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[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

oh you salty dog you

...(🤷‍♂️)

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

55 73 65 20 68 65 78 20 66 6f 72 20 74 65 72 73 65 6e 65 73 73 20 62 72 75 68 0a 0a 41 6c 73 6f 20 74 68 69 73 20 69 73 20 73 74 69 6c 6c 20 61 73 73 75 6d 69 6e 67 20 55 54 46 2d 38 20 6f 72 20 61 74 20 6c 65 61 73 74 20 41 53 43 49 49 2c 20 73 6f 20 77 74 68 20 6c 6d 61 6f

[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Why stop at two, when you could stop at just one?

North

Negative North = south

Negative 90 North = west

90 North =east

[–] sznowicki@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Better idea! What if we use 0 for North and then divide the circle around by exactly 360 points? That way we don't need NSEW, we have 0, 90, 180, 270!

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Ah... I love airplanes... To be clear, the issue with this is that magnetic 0 is not the same as true 0. There's a slight offset that can cause issues. So why not have like... True 0 and magnetic 0. T0 and m0?

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

We could use one, and assume we’re operating in the field of complex numbers:

1 N = North
i N = West
i^2^ N = South
i^3^ N = East.

And we could use the complex modulus to indicate distance or speed... or we could map the Riemann sphere onto the surface of the earth and use a single complex number to indicate location.

[–] Trigger2_2000@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Now you're talking!

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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Why stop at one when you could stop at just zero and not use a compass?

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[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Negative north negative east airlines doesn't have a good ring to it though.

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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And I say we don't have enough names, we should have names for at least 30° and 45° increments.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We do, they’re just combinations of the 90 degree ones.

Southwest. North-Northeast.

Yeah, there are 32 named points on a compass, one every 11.25 degrees, you can even fractionalize it to get even more granular

Southwest by west half west for example is 242 degrees

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago

How would that be any easier?

[–] mech@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago

"negative Eastern countries" has a nice ring to it.

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What goes up, must come negative-Up

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

One step forward and two steps un-forward.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I would not be surprised compasses were invented before negative numbers

edit

negative numbers : 200 BCE
compasses : as early as 202 BCE

(these are just from a cursory search, I am not a specialist)

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the four cardinal points bother you, better not look up wind roses or rhumbline networks...

A rather simple one.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Better question is why don’t they have 8? I hate saying “north by north east”.

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[–] EponymousBosh@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

This is just the Minecraft coordinates system and it sucks. "OK I'm at the coords, where's the--oh fuck, it was -3002, 108 not 3002, 108."

[–] Hoohoo@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

This is basic coordinate usage. Negative latitudes are South. And 180 or -180 is half a planet away from the prime meridien. West of England are negative longitudes.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

In addition to what others have already said, it'd be really silly to make one a negative of the other in the most basic sense, too.

There have been so many issues with electrons having a "negative" charge, and that's a binary situation! It would be so much worse to introduce implied favoritism with basic directions.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

For most of human history people who couldn't do math, or read, or understand a map, have been communicating directions to each other.

4 directions is just enough to tell someone which way to face, without being too many to remember.

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