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Note: It's very jarring how the mainly Hamas-composed Palestinian forces are simply holding Israelis at gunpoint but otherwise just staying composed while later on, atrocities on the latter half of the videos appear...

Can anyone explain this?

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Different soldiers, different groups participating with their own ideologies, different squads with different orders (capture hostages vs kill civilians). There's lots of different reasons and I don't think anyone could give you a good answer.

Frankly, I'm sure that at least some soldiers participating in this were given orders to kill civilians. A bunch of the men killed here would have served in the IDF and would be reservists. A bunch of the Palestians soldier are probably are all sorts of mentally fucked up from having grown up in Gaza, and need little if any encouragement to do this.

This is also just what war often actually is, which is why we are generally anti-war and why we say that Israel's past actions made this sort of violence inevitable. If you feel like this is bad--which frankly you should--you should be doing everything you can to promote peace. If Israel wanted to avoid this, it should have been doing everything it could have to work with the PA. Instead, it has continued to annex the West Bank, thereby making the Palestians who were willing to collaborate with them look like fools. When you make ever non-violent path towards freedom and justice impossible, this is what eventually happens.

You can't make people live in a pressure cooker their whole lives and then act surprised that they explode when the lid pops off.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Whenever liberals spout off about how it's all Hamas' fault, I think of those marches in 2018-2019 where 223 Palestinians were killed, over 9,000 were wounded...Israel said they were all sorts of violent, but somehow only 1 (one) Israeli died and 12 were injured (and that's the UPPER bound).

Sounds a lot more like murdering protestors to me, but I guess they showed those Palestinians and definitely didn't invite any sort of retribution shrug-outta-hecks

Even amerikkka presidents publicly recognized that suppressing peaceful dissent inevitably leads to violence. Of course, they don't support it here, but they know it leads to this.

Yes... when the hegemon continues, the fighting worsens... it's all messed up here, I suppose... then again, as a little related note, when they decided to wipe out a Leftist enemy, the PLO, in favor of an Islamist one, Hamas, they dug a deeper ditch for themselves.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The juxtaposition between how Gaza looks and how Israel looks is fucking nauseating. Seeing Palestinian soldiers ride through a fucking suburb while Gaza is flattened makes me sick

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it's like how the fuck do these people sleep, knowing they've essentially made urban hell in their areas, while they sleep in their comfy little suburbs...

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would have simply not been a settler-colonist living in a country club suburb outside of a concentration camp. skill issue

bold of the IDF to publish video showing how broken and useless their fancy tech fence was

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's interesting that all the worst acts are only suggested, not shown, in Israeli-shot footage of who knows what provenance

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's something. Do y' think they're tampering up an atrocity propaganda campaign here?

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

that's clearly what they're trying to do but this collection of video evidence seems pretty thin

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are a lot of people just being shot.

Do not watch it, I feel sick to my stomach

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

People being shot at isn't necessarily the problem, the corpses are.

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seeing dead people having spreading pools of blood is horrific.

[–] SpasmodicColon@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

remember that feeling, then remember that the IDF has been doing this every single day to Palestinian children for the last 76 years.

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Oh I’m very aware the video is propaganda. It’s horrific.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The corpses don't hit me as hard as seeing shellshocked children. The looks in their eyes is not something a kid should have, but it's what Israel and America creates.

Shellshock, that's a term we should revive back for this situation...

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)