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[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 126 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So, my understanding is that the Simp is all alone?

[–] X@piefed.world 30 points 3 months ago

Being that size can be really fucking intimidating to others.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 65 points 3 months ago (6 children)

So, my understanding of auroras is, the planet's magnetic field draws particles emitted by the sun toward the poles, and as those particles interact with the atmosphere they glow. So without a star and thus without solar wind, where do the aurora come from?

[–] Gust@piefed.social 46 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean, it has a magnetic field 6 or 7 orders of magnitude higher than ours. Id guess that extra strength allows it to pull particles from much further away and possibly from sources much more reticent to give up their particles than solar wind

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Both the magnetic field strength and charged particle flux fall off proportional to the square of the distance from the planet / star respectively, so I doubt it gets much of anything even with a strong magnetic field unless it’s also near a star.

I’d also point out that the particles aren’t really attracted by the earths magnetic field, we’re just in the pathway, and the magnetic field funnels them to the poles. It’s more guidance than attraction.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

If the rogue planet is truly all alone in space, you're definitely right. 4 million times is a lot, but space is really, really big, and solar radiation falls off with 1/r^2.

Let's assume the auroras are proportional to the size of the magnetic field. That's probably not true, it's probably actually proportional to the square root of the magnetic field because field strengths fall off with 1/r^2, but let's give it the best possible chance of having huge auroras. That would mean that a planet with 4x the magnetic field of Earth would have the same Aurora brightness at 2x the distance. So, something with 4 million times the magnetic field would have the same brightness at sqrt(4,000,000) the earth-to-sun distance, or 2000x the distance. If it were in our solar system, or even just near our solar system, it would be bright. But, space is big.

Since the earth is about 500 light-seconds from the sun, 2000 earth-distances is about 1 million light seconds, or about 11.5 days. By comparison, the closest star to Sol is Proxima Centauri at 4 light years. So, these Auroras would only be earth-like if the rogue planet were very close to some star. It wouldn't have to necessarily be in orbit of that star, but it would have to be pretty close. If it were out in the space between the stars, there's just nothing there for the magnetic field to interact with.

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[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 12 points 3 months ago

Im guessing it only occurs when it is in a cloud or trail of charged particles. or perhaps there is a local (climatic?) cycle that sends charged particles to the poles.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Wikipedia linked in these comments says it is likely from electron precipitation. Basically the magnetic field traps free elections and thus "wiggles" as they interact with the field. This can make a (pulsed) radio jet shooting from the pole, which is how this planet was observed. These electrons can fine from atmospheric phenomena such as lightning or large storms.

Earth has the same but much weaker phenomenon, the Van Allen belt, which was a difficult challenge to handle in the early days of space exploration.

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Kind of, but not really.

Auroras dont necessarily need a stars radiation. Any old radiation will do, so long as there are charged particles floating around. Jupiter, for example, has gigantic continuous aurora around the magnetic poles. If auroras only came from the sun, and the earth is much closer to the sun than Jupiter, wouldn't earth have a bigger aurora than Jupiter?

No, obviously. The size of the aurora depends on the size of the magnetic field interacting with charged particles and the number of those charged particles.

In the case of supermassive planets like Jupiter and this rogue planet, they produce way more of their own radiation than they recieve from the sun or space. This rogue "planet" in particular is so massive that it could actually fuse deuterium down in the core just with the pressures and temperatures of gravity crushing all that matter down. If you pumped enough hydrogen in there to quadruple the mass, it would probably ignite into a star quite comparable to our sun.

For that reason, it's better to think of this as more of a baby star that didn't quite eat enough wheaties than a planet in the traditional sense we think of here in our solar system.

With the crazy physics that come with suns and near dwarfs with similar mass, it's no surprise that it generates a titanic magnetic field, and as a bonus, it produces its own radiation. It creates all the necessary ingredients it needs to make it's own spectacular auroras with no actual outside interaction.

Tl;dr it makes it's own aurora

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[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 65 points 3 months ago (2 children)

SIMP? More like PGTOW (Planets Going Their Own Way)

This planet is no orbiter.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

I hate that I laughed at that

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Strangely attracted to distant stars yet unable to establish a stable orbit, Simp 0136 is condemned to a lonely existence.

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[–] dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

Strangely Independent Massive Planet - Simp

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 months ago (4 children)

wait is this real or a joke? do we have a new planet that I've never heard of??

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 66 points 3 months ago

This planet isn't in our solar system. We've found 6,053 exoplanets already, so it's a safe bet that there's lots more of them than you're aware of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exoplanet

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

We have discovered over 6000 exoplanets in total, and over 100 in this year. I'd be surprised if you knew of all of them

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[–] belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 months ago

Galaxy, not Solar System. There are a lot of planets in our galaxy that you’ve probably never heard of

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Interesting, I just finished reading Rendezvous With Rama.

If a massive object like that was to pass through our neighbourhood I think it could fling planets out of the solar system.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 months ago (15 children)

Even with this mass this planet would have to pass one of the outer planets extremely close and quite slowly to have a chance of dragging a planet out of the solar system.

This is the same sort of idea as when galaxies merge. There is little chance of our solar system being effected in that scenario. There is just too much space to space.

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[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's one of my very favorite books. It's fantastic at setting the mood. The further books are ok but not as much to my taste.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I still need to read the book! My main familiarity with RAMA is the 199(5?) PC game that was mind bogglingly obtuse with math puzzles but the world was SO fascinating! I need to figure out how to play it again with my grown up brain...

The soundtrack was INCREDIBLE...

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Apparently ScummVM supports the game, though idk what's with the size of this particular upload.

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Maybe we could attract it with an OnlyFans subscription.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Planets Only - Adult Swim

Young, dumb, and not-orbiting a sun... ;)

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's not. I like the solar systems orbits exactly as they are

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[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ofc the simp is cucked in the corner not allowed to join the orgy of planets.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 21 points 3 months ago

Borg Sphere Model 2025

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

So how come there's an aurora when there's no star to spray it with electromagnetic radiation?

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Because the planet produces its own radiation. That much mass means this is less a "planet" and more of a proto star. It's actually large enough to fuse deuterium if the right conditions arise. Pour enough hydrogen in there to raise the mass three of four times what it has now and it'd be comparable to our sun.

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[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Likely a brown dwarf or magnetar

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Looks like a brown dwarf, especially from the Wiki page

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 6 points 3 months ago

I was going to say, I read somewhere at uni that if Jupiter was 14 times as large, it would have become a brown dwarf.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Name seems wrong but you do you, SIMP 0136

[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Welcome to 2016. Mike brown and Konstantin Batygin basically proved that the only way we could explain the orbits of Pluto and other KBO was a massive 9th, yet to be discovered rogue planet more than likely ejected from our inner solar system during planet formation.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago

Lonely queen.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 months ago

He's just jealous 'cause the dorks on Earth called him a failed star.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Simping for magnetism

My new band name

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's looks like a picture of Jupiter, or an artists impression of it, and there's a star needed for an aurora to happen.

Any scientific sources to back this story up?

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 15 points 3 months ago

No it is indeed an artists impression of the planet - it's on the wiki page.

I'm assuming that aurora only needs solar wind to happen on earth - or that solar wind outside the heliosphere is strong enough you don't need a star for it to happen.

In 2018 astronomers said "Detecting SIMP J01365663+0933473 with the VLA through its auroral radio emission, also means that we may have a new way of detecting exoplanets, including the elusive rogue ones not orbiting a parent star ...

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