Palestine
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Rule 2: No zionists/tankies.
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Posts like this just shit on all the people in jail right now for supporting palestine. We've been loud about it for decades and it's been growing every day.
How?
& follow the money.
Right back to those who would pit us against each other to prevent us pitting ourselves against them to stop them.
It's worse than that.
The zionist project is fundamentally a laboratory of oppression, the cutting edge of what the powerful can be allowed to do yo the weak.
Every oligarch and every zionist must die for humanity to have a future.
It’s worse than that.
The zoo ist project is fundamentally a laboratory of oppression, the cutting edge of what the powerful can be allowed to do yo the weak.
Every oligarch and every zionist must die for humanity to have a future.
I do wish we'd stop using the word "zionist" for the mass murdering supremacist crooks.
It gets a baby thrown out with the bathwater.
Zionist can mean just someone who wants their nation be paradise, and to have the right to help make it so. I'd not want to deny that right to anyone. All the false flags, collective punishment, rape policy, genocide, supremacy, expansionism, jingoism, corruption, etc, is not intrinsic to the word with that interpretation of it.
... Similar to how various crooks (sometimes other crooks) want themselves called "globalists".
These are soft peddled terms they want to be called, as it does not call them out for their crimes.
But I know that's an uphill climb to undo that Orwellianism [not just because their list of crimes are so numerous it's a more than a mouthful]. Like trying to take the swastika back from its perverted use. We really must cease using the language of the oppressor, and cease letting them appropriate all language and symbology into their vile murk, poisoning it all, and putting that poison in our mouths or silencing us with it, depriving us of emancipatory expressions and ideas as they get inverted and conflated..
[Edit: Also, vitally, no one needs to die. That's opposaming. From one totalitarianised mindset to another, still excusing atrocities as necessary virtues. "Normal people save everybody." -- Paige to Walter O'Brian when he arrogantly capped the possibility at a lesser "greater good" presuming it the best possible. The dead don't learn. Death lets them off. There's always a better way. Let (and help) the rotten ideas die. Save the people, punish and reform the criminals. Heal them of the splinter in their paw. Don't become them.]
What would you prefer calling them?
Covered several good examples already in the post you're replying to. Redundant question.
can mean just
Not in modern day. Modern language, cutting out the nation part, which IMO is good, uses 'utopian'. There may be an archaic use I'm not familiar with, or you're referring to an ancient movement that died out, no longer exists, would be pointless anachronistic and racist to revive in a modern context.
baby thrown out with bathwater
States can get fucked and there are no walled gardens. Not for long anyway.
Zionism means shooting children in the genitals and raping people to death with dogs. Zionism means poisoning wells and mass starvations and double tap bombings of journalists all for land you don't even have any way to use yourself.
nobody needs to die
No people. Just Zionists and oligarchs. They opted out of humanity, and we do not have the context to make them human again. They are jor worth the effort or the damage they would do in the meantime, while they remain Zionists. Every single one needs to die.
Grotesque.
Succumbs compliant to Orwellian corruption of language.
Dehumanizes.
Vile.
Doubled down and did nearly all the things I just elaborated on how wrong they are. Over your totalitarianised head. Opposamed. Two wrongs don't make a right. You became them. An eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth makes the whole world blind and toothless.
[Edit: Afterthought: Seems to play right into the ploys to have people be okay with killing them all. Y'know, like the crazy "christian" ploy to gather all the Jews in one place and have them convert to Christianity or drop the bomb on them all. How very Christian, hah! Beware the problem-reaction-solution ploys of these psychopaths and totalitarians. Always good to keep checking for what mass-formations we're each still in.]
Oooh advanced 'antisemitism!' play. Wondered where you were going with that.
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Not sure what you're saying there, with that Orwellianised language.
But I suspect you're attempting to say I'm saying the opposite of what I'm saying.