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[–] SantasMagicalComfort@piefed.world 88 points 4 months ago (3 children)

If Netflix has this much money then I feel less bad about pirating their content for years now.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] SantasMagicalComfort@piefed.world 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It typically costs more money to finance something.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Only for normal people. If you are rich or a company like this you can leverage assets for a rate lower than the rate of return on your investments and come out ahead by financing over paying cash. Rich people don't pay cash for anything.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Shareholders foot the bill, ultimately.

[–] SantasMagicalComfort@piefed.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not the subscribers but the shareholders?

I'll never understand economics.

[–] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, in fact it's not that complicated - shareholders literally own the company - and this ownership results in both the right to decide what happens to the company and receiving dividends, which are supposed to come from the company's surplus funds. In reality it's not that straightforward, but that's the general idea. So if a company spends money, you can think of it as spending shareholders' money allocated in the company's assets.

[–] SantasMagicalComfort@piefed.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, in fact it's not that complicated

In reality it's not that straightforward

Well now I’m really fucking confused.

[–] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I meant the whole idea is simple, but in reality capitalists exploit every single loophole to gain even more money, so there are laws against a lot of stuff - it would be that simple if people were trustworthy.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Originally shareholders received a part share in the total profitability of the company. A dividend was the main source of income from investing.

It didn't take them long to figure out that buying and selling shares of a company to other investors was usually more profitable than dividends. Its a hell of a lot easier to lie about potential value of the company than it's current reality.

So for the past 100+ years the market value of the shares are often separated from the reality of the company. The value of the shares only exists because people or automated programs are willing to pay the amount. This is how companies who are operating under a huge deficits have increasing stock prices.

Since the value of the shares can be so easily manipulated, market manipulation is the normal way investors make money today. It also means that major stockholders don't give a fuck about long term value of the company, the employees, or the damage to society & the environment they cause. They only care about making quickest profits, then passing the dumpster fire they created onto somebody else.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 4 months ago

Probably both to varying degrees. Neither will I.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The people buying it don’t give a fuck.. it will be repaid by the company they are buying

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They've clearly got too much (fucking wrestling?), but somehow not enough for anything I want to watch.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

Reality shows slop, wrestling is basically that, sinc eits not true "wrestling" is where the money is at.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago

them cancelling shows should be the reason.

[–] cloudless@piefed.social 76 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Get ready for Ultra Premium™️ subscription price hikes.

[–] Fermion@mander.xyz 56 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Someone has to pay for that acquisition, and it won't be the shareholders.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago

subscription. they are probably going to either force a bundling package, or increase the price of netflix to compensate.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Usually its debt in the new company with these scumbags.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm ready to pirate.

I already am, but I'm still ready as well.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

But just don't pirate, also share!

I seed, lend my Plex server and keep seeding while lending lol.

[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

thank you, mitch.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago

they will justify the merger, the money they spent on it by increasing the price. since they already removed phone casting, it be funny what stuff they cook up to restrict more access to more than one person.

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am not sure that's what anyone wanted when they said there are too many different streaming services.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 months ago

The various media owners to lease out their licenses to a small handful of competing services and for the streaming services to choose which material was worth the lease cost to stay competitive.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 months ago

Companies not to vertically integrate. Production studios should produce movies, and streaming platforms should provide a platform for people to access movies. If Spotify made its own music it would be absurd, right? Well, yeah.

[–] NanoooK@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 months ago

That's bad, HBO won't make new quality show.

[–] SomeRandomNoob@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Netflix has 300 million subscribers. Buying WB for $80 Billions means every subscriber has to pay at least ~266$ for Netflix to break even. That's about $4.50 per month per subscriber if you spread it out over 5 years. Get ready for for some price hikes.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They can also raise prices for HBO

[–] SomeRandomNoob@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

True. after a quick search the WB side has ~130 million subsribers. Taking them into account it would be ~ $3 per month instead of the $4.50.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

WB is also generating money. So that's not completely true.

They'll probably make some double pack for a discounted price.

[–] Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social 20 points 4 months ago

Price increase coming in 3… 2… 1…

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This is actually worse than even Paramount aquiring them.

Both were shit, but this is hands down the worst possible outcome.

[–] golli@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is it? Paramount+Larry Ellison+the Saudis was not a particular great alternative either. I guess only time will tell, how this turns out.

With Paramount I think there would have been the risk of WB remaining in a similar form, but being ideologically twisted.

With Netflix or course there is a larger risk towards theatrical and physical releases as it goes against their primary business model. And the biggest threat to creativity is not ideology, but in a way the opposite. Lack thereof and instead focus on just metrics like short term viewership numbers.

The best option out of the bad ones would have probably been something like Comcast. Or in my dreams wb would have just stayed independent, splitting of linear assets. They have a ton of debt, but imo eventually they'd have been strong enough to survive. Bur I guess sadly this wasn't the most lucrative path.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

with NUTREK being so poorly made as it is, paramount/ellison might finally either try to astroturf it or shut down the franchise. isnt physical release where all the pirating is sourced from, or at least most of them.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago

i see them dumping every new show after 1-2 seasons. only keeping the ones that gives the most subscription sign ups.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Netflix says the buy would give users more choice"

In a world with real journalism the very next question would be how but we just spread the normalization and allow the little lies.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I thought Disney already did that

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 4 months ago

Maybe it's like The Producers and they're just selling it to everyone.

[–] Mjpasta710@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago

I can't wait for K-Pop Demon Hunters the ride at your nearest 6 flags..?

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Netflix is the new direct tv. Instead of 500 channels, your choice of content is splattered in one spot.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

comcast, soon to be. i wouldnt be surprised if they tier some of the service, like bundle, netlfix+hbo max is going to cost you more.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Netflix+HBO $50/month?

[–] stretch2m 1 points 3 months ago

Shiver me timbers! Netflix is the last streaming service I've kept, because it (so far) hasn't started showing me ads. I REFUSE TO PAY FOR ADS! Also, when they jack up the price from this merger, I'm out.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was really hoping for HBO to be the ones to tackle a Stormlight Archive adaptation. I no longer do.

That is my nightmare. There isnt a single fantasy book series to television adaptation that hasnt been absolutely horrible. Dont ruin my cosmere stuff please