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[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)


this will surely be well-received by the influx of R*ddit users

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

and that's why I'm crossposting :)

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I find the trick with libs is that you have to use their sources they consider to be trustworthy, it makes it a lot harder for them to dismiss that. And western MSN will often squirrel the facts away somewhere in the article, so you just have to go through the pain of actually reading through the drivel to find them. This was a rare case where they put the relevant stuff in the actual headline.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

nothing better than debunking MSM with MSM, especially if it's the same outlet from the past

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago
[–] ivy@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you know about r/UkraineNaziWatch ? They collect articles like this.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah, there are some good resources there, might actually be worth reposting some of that to lemmy.ml/c/ukraine

[–] foucaultthehaters@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

War is bad. That's not a controversial opinion. Where the libs seems to lose their minds is that you can be against the escalation of war that is having a net negative effect on the working class of both nations. That start with ending the shipment of weapins of war to the conflict.

Kiev wasted NO time outlawing every remotely left wing party in the country. Fascist paramilitaries have been disappearing members of these parties left and right, labeling them all pro-russian.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lib position is fundamentally based on the notion that the west can dominate Russia. The whole rhetoric of saying that the west can't let Russia set the precedent of invading countries and so on is premised on the idea that the west is in a position to prevent Russia from doing so by force. The west hasn't had to do diplomacy for the past three decades and got used to simply dictating terms to the rest of the world.

Now, it's becoming increasingly evident that the west is not a position to fight Russia in a hot war or in an economic one. Sooner or later the liberal mainstream is going to have to grapple with this fact.

The argument liberals make today is that negotiation is not possible because Russia cannot be trusted. However, this is an infantile argument because politics have never been about trust. Politics are about understanding your own interests and the interests of your adversaries. You don't have to like or trust each other, but you have to have a mutual understanding of what your respective interests are. Once you do that then you can negotiate mutually agreeable terms with each other. This used to be understood when the west had to contend with the power of USSR, but seems to be a lost art nowadays. Hopefully the imbeciles running things in the west rediscover it before dragging us into a world war.