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[–] socsa@piefed.social 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Post scarcity is kind of an odd man out here. The idea predates tech broism by a solid half century, and informs a lot of contemporary leftist theory. There is nothing inherently wrong with using utopian thinking as a guiding principle for iterative policy. I'd argue that anything which doesn't do that is cynicism.

[–] killea@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It occurs to me that I'd argue we're heading towards a forced scarcity society rather than post scarcity. That's the only way they can make sure we don't get a Star Trek type future if/when we figure out fusion power. Hell, we've already basically been able to feed everyone for ages.

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

While post scarcity is excellent and I do believe it is possible in theory, it's used as a buzzword to handwave away all the dystopian things being pushed.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] tourist@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Depending on how serious you are:

Choose weed instead

Or the crisis line. You probably already know where to find it. Help is available. You do not have to suffer alone. I love you homie.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's an assassassin. He never said the death was his own...

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

They be assin'

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

Just kidding, unless given that exact choice lol. Weed has been a great help this year. Love you too fam, appreciate the thoughtful comment.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Or the crisis line.

What happens is that they “triage” you, where depending on how you answer their script you get cops at your door and a trip to hell on earth, or you are on hold for 20 minutes to speak with someone who also is reading a script and doesn’t give a rats ass about you.

Maybe states that aren’t Oklahoma have mental hospitals which are preferable to drinking yourself to sleep, but who knows.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

"Everyone and everything will end in my lifetime. I'll be here to see it all crumble just before I am incinerated in the blast."

is another popular escapist fantasy.

No one wants to believe they'll just have to hobble through a slow and painful decline.

[–] stepan@lemmy.cafe 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

we will make global anarchy by tomorrow. no more money, capitalism and suffering, trust

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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We are all stardust though. Billion-year-old carbon.

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

yes but do you consider that important in any way? if you do you are closer to the person on the left

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

I would say it is a neutral fact.

Imo there is no meaning to life, everyone decides for themselves what to live for.

If someone likes the fact that we are made from starstuff, why yuck that yum specifically? It is kind of a nice perspective to take sometimes when life gets stressful.

It is also a part of a nice song by Joni Mitchell and a nice speech by Carl Sagan, both people I admire, but not something I think about a lot...

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[–] seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

I have met the guy on the right irl. He was unbearable

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Stellaris players: How it feels to have a Spiritualist empire on one side of your border and a Materialist empire on the other.

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[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean scientifically speaking, we are all made of stardust. Everything in the universe is. Including the existential crisis your trying to forget by disassociating.

[–] dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

And blue light does keep you awake. Are we team Esotheria?

[–] FluidBeef@quokk.au 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Basically the dark shadows of the Hippy Age Of Aquarius and sandal-wearing tech Utopianism corrupted Into evil by the baby boomers ageing into the dominant political class in the West.

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

At this point they basically have all the money and all the votes that they need, not to mention the cognitive dissonance they are capable of withstanding is absolutely INSANE

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

This is so overwhelmingly hyperbolic I’m not sure what to take from it

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I choose neither, and instead day dream about fully automated luxury gay space communism, knowing I'm gonna die before such a thing could ever come to fruition.

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[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Getting really into sleight of hand magic and smoking a lot of pot.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I honestly think most of these bugfuck crazy views stem from we humans not having evolved to deal with the modern world. People feed us the simple answers we crave.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

We were meant to subsist off of grubs, berries, and whatever your extended family could hunt as we trekked around, dying randomly of infections and bear attacks. Then some fucking asshole started farming and it's all been downhill since!

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

OoooooooohPleaseNukeItFromSpace

[–] DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

I just want to drop in and call out "death is a design flaw" specifically. It is not. Without death, there can be no evolution, and any change to the environment is extinction.

The mountains seem eternal, but there were forests before many of them, and though the trees will be different in the distant eons when the mountains are worn to nothing, the forests will live on.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I don't know how to put this to you guys but the one on the right is significantly more plausible than the one on the left.

Also I don't like turmeric.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

im not even joking i will sooner become a shaman that lives in the middle of the woods than a techbro im so done with tech i swear

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[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Really? Are people out there that thinks that death is a design flaw? I know it's shitpost, but it's based on something after all

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Depends on how literally you mean it, in general, those most likely to say it wont think that humans are literally designed not to die and only do so because someone made a mistake, but more that humans might be redesigned or modified not to (or at least not from biological aging). Not a hard to find sentiment if you hang out in spaces with transhumanists, but I find the ones that overlap with AI bros, that tend to have an attitude like "this will totally happen in my lifetime and with no effort because the AI singularity is going to come and give us everything in a few years" impossible to talk to, because all too often they will cite even the tiniest listed improvement in any AI system as proof that literally everything possible or impossible is about to happen and then insist you arent paying attention when you give them skeptcism.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, there are people who believe we will find a way to transcend death via technology. I personally think a world ruled by immortal omniwealthy methusalas that will never let even death release their boot from the necks of the common man is a bad thing, but...

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I believe this is an idea most legitimately championed by Nick Bostrom. Here is a video explaining his perspective.

I feel like, at least from the stance of abstract philosophy, he makes some good points. And I'm not enough of a philosopher to refute them (though I'm sure some have). Personally, my stance is "I'll cross that bridge when I arrive at it" - I expect to die before that happens.

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I’m also hung up on “Crypto is UBI”. Surely this is a one off crackpot quote and not a thing, right?

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[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

post-scarcity society

RAM prices going up

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's funny, just yesterday I looked at RAM prices randomly for the first time in months, thought "wow, that's high", and today I see reference after reference after reference about how high it is.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

I take exception with the mixing of the stone cold fact that we're all stardust with all that other crap.

It is good to be able to vape some weed and watch beautiful videos about amazing mind-blowing shit that actually exists, and not automatically entertain whatever magical/religious/supernatural idea is making the rounds in your neck of the woods.

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