I mean, those two things aren't mutually exclusive. I can believe the science AND ALSO engage in behaviors it says are unhealthy for me.
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I have night light mode on my phone. So I’m good!!!!!!!
That's not a scientific thing tho ! Proven to have no effect in fact.
Proven to have no effect in fact.
I thought the blue light was the problem.
Proven*
Samples sizes are always small, confounding variables poorly controlled and control groups often contaminated.
Long term effect are also poorly studied.
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I get why you shouldn't use it before bed but why not after waking up? If it keeps you awake shouldn't it help you wake up?
allegedly
you are priming your brain for distraction
that info comes from Julie Morgenstern, an organizing & productivity consultant, so I dunno how scientific it is...
Also, it's forbes
God damn, I can't find any solid research that backs up the claims of it being bad for you, granted I didn't do a thorough search, but I did still look and came out empty handed.
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That's a good way to start my work day then because I'm constantly moving from one fire to another.
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Just because I don't follow the recommendation doesn't mean I disbelieve it. Science also says I should eat better and exercise more and do less drugs 🤷♂️
It’s actually neutral on the subject of what you should do. That is for medicine and public health policy, or even personal choice.
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Just because I believe doesn't mean I listen.
Science is totally right here, I have no doubt. It's just... that I have zero regard for my own health.
Me using phones : wow, I can sleep at 1am, great.
Me "just going to bed" : great, it's 4am and I'm still overthinking my shortcomings!
Yep. Numbing the thoughts away with constant input helps the body gain the upper hand and let me go to sleep.
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Me trying not to murder my partner who I love very much when her phone suddenly blasts out Instagram brain-rot at 11pm and I’m trying to maintain a vaguely healthy bedtime ritual.
I believe what science is saying. I'm just not going to follow it. If I try to sleep without reading something my brain will start ruminating on things and then I'm definitely not getting to sleep. All my reading materials are on a screen.
It's not a settled issue. There are research papers that show evidence that blue light affects sleep, which is not the same thing as blue light makes your sleep worse.
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Small rant, but people saying they believe in science is a pet peeve of mine. Belief has no place olin science.
You can't "believe" in science any more than you can "know" in your religion.
Belief and faith are the realm of the unknowable. Knowledge and fact are the realm of science.
When people say they "believe" in science, I think they mean they are putting their faith into the scientists performing the science. That whatever conclusion they come to after an experiment or study is the correct conclusion.
I'm sure you can find the flaw in doing so, as science is constantly being debunked. A good example that comes to mind is the alpha wolf theory.
It can be argued that while science strives to be in the realm of knowledge and fact, it doesn't always succeed in doing so. At least not in the first rounds of study. And I think that's what its strength is; being able to correct itself in the pursuit of knowledge and fact. All the same, science is run by humans, and humans are fallible. But despite that fallibility, some people are willing to put their faith into scientists because of their constant pursuit for the truth. Even if what they said yesterday got debunked today, it doesn't make yesterday's scientists any lesser. It only means we are all better for it.
When people say they “believe” in science, I think they mean they are putting their faith into the scientists performing the science. That whatever conclusion they come to after an experiment or study is the correct conclusion.
That's literally what they mean, where "scientists" may as easily mean real scientists as charlatans.
It's still completely antagonistic to how science is practiced (if scientists behaved like that, they would never learn anything), and something closer to religion than science.
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I am not smart enough to come to my own conclusions about a lot of science, so yes I must believe what the collective scientific community asserts, because I have no other way to prove things that happen. For me, that means putting my faith in their accuracy. So yes, I believe in science.
It should also be noted that there are people out there that treat science as a religion; that it is infallible, and cannot be changed, and to suggest otherwise is blasphemy. 🤷♂️
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/believe
"To consider to be true or honest"
I don't know what you think believe means but you're wrong
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What's this about right after waking up? (I may have struck this from memory)
My circadian whatever has had all my life to get used to it. I don't accept complaints now.
I have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome… light has no effect on me. Checkmate scientists!
I have a strong feeling I do too, inherited from my mom (both of us self-diagnosed). I also appreciate you calling it a syndrome and not a disorder. It's only a "disorder" because society decided to only accommodate one type of circadian rhythm. Humans have needed people on night watch forever, my money is that this was an advantageous phenomenon.
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If you really wanna ruin your day, apparently late night eating and skipping breakfast also fucks with the rhythm. The body has a few things it uses to keep the internal clock going, not just light.
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I've been trying to talk my wife into dropping the brightness to 50% for years. Her phone is so bright it keeps ME up at night on the other side of the bed. I have to set up a light shield to go to sleep :P
If's hard to believe when my circadian rhythm was still fucked long before I had a screen I could take to bed.
I believe science, that's why I use my tablet instead
I’d rather spend one hour on my phone before bed than three trying and failing to get my brain to shut up ¯\(ツ)/¯
Monkey brain need dopamines 🥺
Don't call me put like this just after I wake up!
I know it's bad for me.
I'm just too tired to care.
It's a matter of effort vs reward. Will it make it easier to sleep? Yes. Will it make it easier enough to be worth not using my phone? No.
Fine! I'll use my laptop instead.
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