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[–] m_f@discuss.online 130 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There truly is an XKCD for everything...

The subreddit law of comics (lemmy communities just can't reach that level for now)

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

☺☻♥♦♣♠•◘○

[–] vivi@slrpnk.net 64 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

nerd mode engaged.

https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/54423/why-dont-upper-case-numbers-exist#54425

they actually are usually upper case, it's the lower case that are less widely used.

[–] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

As far as I know, that is the 'number case'. Where the difference between upper and lower case is defined based on alignment of the numbers with baseline of typography.

I think the post is taking about 'letter case'. Which we commonly use to yell at people through text. I don't think there is an equivalent like that in case of numbers. Mainly because numbers came from languages which are unicase by default. Like the Indian languages and Arabic.

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[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

6 and 8 being all “no one tells me what to do!” and staying the same.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

That can be used to play pranks on people...

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

IDK, I don't think old style and lining figures are analogous to lower- and uppercase letters. They're not really different glyphs, at least not like lower- and uppercase letters are, and I would see them more as different ways of typesetting the same glyph.

Edit: Wikipedia does not agree with me.

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[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

𝟙𝟚𝟛𝟜𝟝𝟞𝟟𝟠𝟡𝟘

[–] Jeeve65@ttrpg.network 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if Roman Numerals are the best choice for statistics

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago
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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Just use an exclamation mark. It'll be fine. Like so:

5!

10!

See? No real difference and now the number feels bigger!

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Big difference there, those are

120

3628800

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you mean:

120!

3628800!

Really emphasize it, ya know!?

[–] modus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Embiggened by several factors.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Calculator 2: The Overbiggening

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

— It will cost you $253. — Are you kidding me? TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THREE DOLLARS?

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They are in the Chinese numbers.

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] mossberg590@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

That explains a lot. It turns out people often switch to upper case speaking numbers to me.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You can use absolute numbers like ”The answer to life, the universe and everything is |42|.”

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What if the number is negative, do I say "-|42|?"

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Please surrender your license to math.

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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] squirrel@piefed.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

Use roman numerals.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I guess OP's never seen Roman numerals before. 🤪🤓

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago

Although, the romans never saw one trillion anything.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago
[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

How about, ONE POINT SEVEN FIVE TRILLION KILOGRAMS PER HECTARE SQUARED!

Or perhaps, TEN BILLION FOOT POUNDS PER SQUARE INCH!

Or even, FOURTEEN MILLION ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND, TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY THREE CUBIC DECILITERS PER YEAR!

[–] antimidas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

For some reason this reminds me of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL](the COBOL programming language), though not even COBOL was batshit enough to use numerals written in plain English. Everything else was in plain English, though, which was supposed to make it easier to read and write, but is in reality a horrible idea.

Though all caps just reminds me of early programming languages in general, since we didn't separate uppercase and lowercase in all machines back then, instead using encoding schemes like DEC SIXBIT. Saving memory by using only six bits per character instead of seven or eight, and such. Six bit characters had matching word lengths, before the concept of a byte there used to be loads of 12-bit and 36-bit architectures, that more-or-less went away when the industry almost collectively decided to take byte-addressed memory into use.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm ethnic Chinese* and I'm entering the chat

(*Chinese American)

And I'll conquer the fediverse with 壹貳參肆伍陸柒捌玖拾

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 2 weeks ago

That’s what lining numbers are

[–] stardustpathsofglory@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Oh so that's what exponents are for. They're just lowercase numbers in the sky.

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[–] OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That makes me wonder, why are there capital letters in the first place? Could we not have done fine without them? There is no reason why each sentence has to start with a capital letter, it only adds another level of complexity to the written language. Names and titles would be just fine in lower case. I can write larger letters rather than using capital letters to express loudness. "Startrek into/Into Darkness" could finally have a common consensus on correct capitalization.

Damn.

[–] antimidas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Because of redundancy. Modern written language has a lot of features that make it easier to read, that were added as society became more literal. Things like capitalization, punctuation (a surprisingly recent addition), even separately marking vowels wasn't a given for all writing systems (see old Hebrew as an example). Capital letter in the start of a sentence saves you from picking that up from context, especially when coupled together with the stop (.) signifying the end of it. Redundancy is actually a very natural phenomenon, and spoken language has loads more compared to written examples.

It's complexity that aids the understanding, trading some of the simplicity and speed of writing to better reading comprehension. As per why capital and lowercase, in latin script capitals are derived from the letters that were chiseled, lowercase used to be just a handwritten thing. Written language naturally evolved to make use of these two systems to aid in reading. So things like capitalization are actually completely opposite from added complexity, actually making the language easier to comprehend after a bit of an initial learning curve.

[–] antimidas@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To hammer the point through here's the same comment with the "complexity" removed, a bit more akin to tokenized text:

because of redundancy modern written language has a lot of features that make it easier to read that were added as society became more literal things like capitalization punctuation (a surprisingly recent addition) even separately marking vowels wasnt a given for all writing systems (see old hebrew as an example) capital letter in the start of a sentence saves you from picking that up from context especially when coupled together with the stop (.) signifying the end of it redundancy is actually a very natural phenomenon and spoken language has loads more compared to written examples

its complexity that aids the understanding trading some of the simplicity and speed of writing to better reading comprehension as per why capital and lowercase in latin script capitals are derived from the letters that were chiseled lowercase used to be just a handwritten thing written language naturally evolved to make use of these two systems to aid in reading so things like capitalization are actually completely opposite from added complexity actually making the language easier to comprehend after a bit of an initial learning curve

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is so interesting, thank you.

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[–] meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know how to explain it, but 5 is loud

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The numbers are always yelling

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

They actually are. And there are lowercase numbers in several fonts, which people really should use more.

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