Not really seeing the "or" for the top one to be honest.
this post was submitted on 02 Dec 2025
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Same system ... different hat
...the US has both mottos covered.
Authoritarian-lite wearing the mask of democracy/capitalism or communism doesn't really mean much.
Just because the Soviet Union had a pretty bad famine doesn't mean it had famines all around.
Capitalists want to perpetrate this myth of "frequent famines" so much that they called banana shortages and Hungarians not eating as much beef as a carnivore diet influencer "famines". These poison the discourse with bad faith arguments, which lead to good faith arguments not taken seriously.
Just because the Soviet Union had a pretty bad famine doesn’t mean it had famines all around.
The Soviet Union had several famines under Lenin and Stalin, largely from choices made by the central government, and workers continued to suffer from food insecurity even under Khrushchev and Brezhnev.
Capitalists want to perpetrate this myth of “frequent famines” so much that they called banana shortages and Hungarians not eating as much beef as a carnivore diet influencer “famines”.
Most of the food insecurity in the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact during the Cold War was based on personal circumstances (which the government did little to assist with) or was in the form of shortages and rationing rather than outright famine. Nonetheless, the fact is that food was a recurring problem in the Soviet system, and, for that matter, that several other ML 'projects' endured similar issues - including literal famines - in this time period.
The issue is not socialism, but the Soviet system, specifically. Socialist Yugoslavia, despite also being an authoritarian regime, did not suffer from nearly the same level of quality-of-life issues precisely because it didn't imitate the Soviet economic regime.
Acshtually people in the same socio-economic demographic in the USSR were better feed that the people in the US.
Not even close to true. Usually what's cited in 'defense' of this idea is a single-page CIA report from the mid-80s that borked its own statistical source and even then, for that matter, suggested that Soviet citizens ate less, but had a healthier diet due to less sugar and fats available.
Counter, women in the Soviet Union reported better sex than their American counterparts.
This is bullshit, meat being rarely available is not one anyone would consider "better fed".
Not mention the Holodomor in Ukraine.