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These idiots will never face consequences until the citizens get angry enough to start guillotine trials
Yeah, if any significant pushback ever happens, it's not going to be 14 years of court cases and bullshit appeals. It's going to be citizens' justice.
I'm not advocating it. I'm just saying that's how it could play out.
I'm hearing conflicting reports of the timeline.
One version has Hegseth ordering the strike, and after the first hit, there were two guys alive in the water, and Hegseth said "Kill them all," and the second strike was fired.
Another version has Hegseth saying "Kill them all" up front, and the pilot, noticing the two survivors in the water, decided to fire the second shot on his own, in accordance with Hegseth's original order, but Hegseth did not give the specific order to fire a second shot.
In the first version, Hegseth is definitely on the hook for the order to fire the second shot, which was murder, plain and simple. In the second version, the pilot unilaterally made the decision to murder the survivors, giving Hegseth weak deniability. He did order them to "Kill them all," but he could say it was an excited but rhetorical statement at the outset of the operation, but that he didn't mean for the pilot to commit actual murder. He'll act all outraged, and throw the pilot under the bus.
If nothing else (and they are plenty else), MAGA is cowardly.
Ok, do it.
Including the commander in chief
Prince Joffrey
I could bite my finger off too. Doesn't mean shit.
Hahaha! Oh, you were serious? That won't happen.
This is what happens when you think you're the king.
If anyone is held accountable, it will be the person that ultimately pressed the buttons and/or their direct superior.
Pardons all around -orange turd
They are doing the Democrats job. Democrats want the military to refuse illegal orders and the GOP(Goofy Old Phuckers) are helping by punishing the military for obeying them.
Yes, that’s pretty much how war crimes work.
“Could”
More like "should but won't"
I guess I don't understand why the second strike is worse than the first one?
It's not that it's worse in any way, a person killed is dead either way, it's that there's no possible defense and it clearly demonstrates the intentional and likely premeditated illegality, making it possible to actually make a substantive case against it. It's not realistic to apply a full legal process to every individual military misdeed or act of war, no matter how much many people might wish it were. We don't live in a perfect world. The list of actual war crimes is intended to include things which are clearly demonstrable with enough evidence that a conviction could be realistic.
It's the difference between running someone over once, which could be a simple accident and we can't and probably shouldn't prosecute every single pedestrian death as first degree murder, it might serve justice to try to do that in some ways, but it's not realistic and also has the potential to be unjust.
Compare that to someone then stopping, backing up and running the same person over again. It removes any possibility of doubt whether the action was an intentional targeted crime and makes it a lot more worthwhile to prosecute. Neither one makes the person any more dead than the other. But one is almost certainly a lot easier to prove to be murder.