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[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

We should jabe just gone with Nader's idea of placing an 8", hunting knife sticking out of the middle of the sterring wheel

[–] aarch0x40@piefed.social 120 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Furthering that they are indeed not the "Pro-Life" party but instead the "Pro-Birth" party.

[–] adubya@feddit.online 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agree but starting to even wonder about that. I've never seen them do anything that benefits births let alone even celebrate it. Seems to be "Pro-Misery especially at others expense".

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 14 points 1 week ago

That's where the "the cruelty is the point" expression comes from

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Remember, their cars are the gaint Yukons with a convoy of body guards aren't safe enough. But your car. It could literally be a gascan strapped to tricycle for all they care.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It could literally be a gascan strapped to tricycle for all they care.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Clearly not the onion. My right wing father (not Republican because we are not American and he's technically a monarquist) complains that cars are too expensive due to the mandatory security features. Features that he has on his fully equipped Porsche because he wants to be safe, obviously.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

as someone from the country where porsche is native and where it owns their own political party.. owning a porsche is one of the clearest signs one can send that they are a massive asshole lol

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is the only excuse for the massive inflation of new car prices vs. rate of wage increases over the decades. I will give auto engineers props for this accomplishment; cars are so much safer now than 30 years ago.

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Dont sleep on either "many new cars are electric" or "cars last a fuckton longer".

Per-capira "total cost of ownership" for a car from purchase to retirement hasnt increased nearly as much as first-sale price would suggest. (Though the "financing cost" of the one-or-more transactions is a separate matter.)

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 11 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Never buy new. Let someone else deal with the frequent hassle of getting all the problems fixed "under warranty" while the lemons get sent to salvage. Give me the vehicles that survive. Case in point, I bought my first car for $500, drove it for 24 years, and the biggest age-related expense was rebuilding the front end for $600. I sold the car in 2011 for $1000. I bought my current SUV in 2009 and the biggest mechanical failures have been replacing the power steering pump and the 4WD short axles.

I had a friend who insisted he needed to spend all his money buying new cars. He tried to tell me how much money he was saving because the dealership was fixing all the problems for free. I pointed out that he had barely even driven his new car because it was spending more time at the dealership every week or two and he was constantly wasting his own time taking it back for yet another problem.

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good advice, though not really germane to the topic.

Somebody has to buy the new cars for there to be used cars for you to buy, and the price you offer has to be more valuable to them than the car they're selling.

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

FWIW, A good argument for buying new isn't "look what the dealer's fixing", but rather "I don't want hidden surprises". Private party sales can very much be caveat emptor, and even getting a dealership to stand by their claims can be unprofitable.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's what rich people are for -- to suffer for the benefit of the working class.

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everything is a special model these days which makes the price higher. You don't see mid range, average cars anymore.

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[–] henfredemars 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Instead of patching over the rising costs, maybe we can move to living in communities that aren't so dependent on such a costly, depreciating asset for every home?

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 week ago

You mean the group of people that are okay with schools being used for target practice thinks cars are too safe?! I am shocked.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Car Companies: "the regulations are so big and heavy and workers cost so much munnies. Pls let us do less QA on the vehicles mandatory to live in america."

Republicans: "CRUSH MORE CHILDREN, who would dare inconvenience these poor sweet automotive corporations?!"

Anyone paying attention: "Yall know aside from oil companies, car companies are the most ridiculously subsidized companies on earth?"

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

Replace seat belts with piano wire and make air bags with 50x the explosive charge but replace the airbag with ball bearings.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

American safety standards have led to an insane game of cat an mouse wherein I need my car to be bigger to keep me safe. But my bigger car is more dangerous to you. So you need a bigger car to protect yourself from my dangerously large car. But now I need a bigger car to protect me from your giant car.

And 30 years later everyone is driving around a 60 thousand dollar crumple zone so tall it can't see pedestrians over the hood and needs a 6 liter engine just to move.

Same for child seats. Planning on having 3 kids under 10? Better plan on a truck or van with a 3rd row, because somehow, you can't fit seats 3 small children in the back seat of a family sedan or crossover.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Is it really the safety standards? I thought it was a combination of all the stupid "truck" exceptions and our equally stupid culture where the iamverybadasses choose their 3-ton grocery and kindergarten shuttles out of fear because they want to "win" any collisions.

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[–] Poojabber@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I agree with you that this has happened, but it is far from the only reason that vehicles have increased in price. Now almost every vehicle comes with power windows, power locks, power mirrors, at least one if not multiple built in tv screens, wireless locks and keyless ignitions. Not to mention alot of manufacturers building in computer hardware/software to track user information and installing propietary parts/hardware/software designed to keep your local mechanic from doing repair work and forcing you to use dealership mechanics at 3-4 times the cost.

All of it is being done because it makes more money. Mark my words, if they repeal safety regulations, it will definitely reduce the safety of our vehicles, but it will have little to no effect impact on prices. I would wager my left nut that auto manufacturers are chomping at the bit to get this deregulation put through so they can reduce their cost of vehicles by increasing the danger of the consumer, but wont reduce the prices by a fraction of what they are "saving," then will proceed to have record profits while using lobbyists to pay off our crooked politicians.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

The really sad thing is your bigger car isn't even really safer for you. It's just cheaper for the manufacturers (since they can classify it as a truck which has less strict safety and efficiency regulations) and a danger to others.

[–] Botunda@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Jesus fuck! What the fuck is it with these fuckers!?!? really? Cars are too safe!??! WTF?

I am guessing they want to deregulate the safety laws so that they can take the money that they spend on it and stick it into their pockets and still keep the price of cars the same!

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 23 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Cars can never be too safe. What I want is a car with no computers or telemetry whatsoever. I want a car that is private with how I use it. Like what they were pre 2000s. Just a hunk of metal to go from point A to point B.

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[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They aren't even save for anyone outside the vehicle, to the point that death are increasing already. not just bikes video

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[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ah yes, it's safety that makes newer cars expensive you see. Not the wireless key-fobs, power seats, built in ipad to replace the perfectly fine knobs and buttons, autonomous driving features...

[–] Paulemeister@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)

From what I've heard the lack of buttons is actually a cost saving measure, if you put in an infotainment system anyway

[–] Scribbd@feddit.nl 9 points 1 week ago

Thank god EU is starting to get involved in the matter.

For now it is only that cars only get a 5 star safety rating when they include buttons for a few things form 2026.

I hope there will be laws that follow after.

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[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What the fuck is with this title? This has zero to do with being "too safe" and everything to do with cost. Inflammatory title.

That said, I highly doubt any cost that's saved on the car makers side will be passed down to the consumer.

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ted Cruz is blaming life-saving car safety regulations for the rising cost of cars

This is correct. They will be cheaper. The question is not how much money is spent, but it is what you get for that money.

I'm sure if we get rid of all food safety laws there will be cheaper food available as well. It will make manufacturing much easier.

Likewise, if we eliminate the EPA and the huge amount of environmental protection laws we have, manufacturing will be much cheaper and feasible to do in the USA.

Chesterton's Fence remains in effect, as ever. Fiddle with these rules at your own risk. Consequences don't care about your feelings and the universe will make sure to pay you back.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

But the prices won't go down. Reductions in production costs are only reflected in sale prices when there's a market force driving the costs down. Right now, people have to own cars, and the barriers to entry into the matlrket are too high for new competitors. There's no reason for the auto manufacturers to lower prices if their costs go down. They can just pocket the difference.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

They'll get rid of the safety mechanisms to make the cars cheaper... to produce.

But you and me will still pay the same prices.

Because its corporate profits they are concerned about, not personal savings.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago

My siblings in sin, American cars and street scapes are dangerous for everyone.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Maybe if American "cars" were actually car sized, they would need a lot less material to be made, and require a less powerful cheaper motor to move all that metal around.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with them whole heartedly. When they remove seat belts, they need to be the first to become a pavement puddle.

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[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

If you want cheaper cars, that's easy: drop the tariffs on Chinese cars and let them flood the market. Now you have cheap cars and your car makers are dead.

Or you can just announce that if the car average price has not dropped by N % by 202x, you will drop the tariff, and see that your local carmaker are perfectly capable of proposing cheaper vehicles.

And in parallel, given you figure people can no longer afford cars due to salary crunch by inflation, you can develop public transportation.

Oh well… except if the whole thing is just an excuse to deregulate for the benefits of your rich and powerful CEO pals and their shareholders…

[–] bassad@jlai.lu 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I say YES!

GOLF CARTS FOR EVERYONE !!!

Cheap, light, small, no computer, natural airflow, what else?

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

For the passenger? Very safe.

For the pedestrians that get hit? Ha! They're literally death machines. At this point, I'm surprised we're not putting spikes on the front of the car Mad Max style to ensure the pedestrians' death.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Y'all can buy these right now.

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