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Please help keeping these monsters of our streets. It will save lives.

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[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 92 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Besides the obvious fact these trucks are too huge for European roads and parking spaces, America vehicles are simply hot garbage.

[–] noodles@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Japanese and Korean vehicles for the American market aren't any better to be fair.

[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 months ago (6 children)

the "newest" car i've ever owned is from 2008... are hondas and toyotas really equally as shitty as fucking dodge and chevy now?

[–] n4sdaq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think so. Their comment seems over-generalized. Sure, most modern cars are too "sporty" now which translates to being more uncomfortable in my experience. But that doesn't mean I'd lump Japanese cars in the same quality category as American cars.

[–] noodles@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago

I meant that they're all behemoths rather than quality wise! But yeah, Chevy has improved and is ok now from what I understand, the rest I wouldn't trust.

[–] Vegan_Joe@anarchist.nexus 5 points 4 months ago

I too would like to know. I'm rocking a 2012 Scion with a Toyota engine with 300,000 miles on it...

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Toyota, particularly, hasn’t kept up with advances in infotainment technology. Their infotainment is literally no better than it was in 08. Honda infotainment is slightly better, but still stuck with terribly low resolution, and only a 9”ish screen. Pretty much any other company will be a better buy than those 2 right now. Remember, the infotainment in every new car is the entire heart of the car, so you’re forced to live with it; you can’t just swap out infotainment screens for something better like you used to be able to do.

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Silly me, thinking that the engine would be the heart of a car.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

What would you even need that for?

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[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

lol "heart of the car" gtfo

rear view cameras are nice (though unnecessary), but literally NOTHING else about "infotainment" is worth the extra cost. you think it is because you've been convinced you just simply can't survive without it, and cars can't even exist without it. why? because $$$

fuck outta my face with that shit

so, my takeaway from all this is that toyota is still the best way to go if you for some reason just have to buy a "infotainment" car

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What options are there that don't have infotainment garbage without buying something that's 10 years old?

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 4 months ago

9 inch infotainment is plenty. The purpose of a car is to travel, not watch SpongeBob Squarepants.

Infotainment replacements are out there, but often lack support for some specific vehicle options. If the connections were more standardized like the old radios it would certainly be nice.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Do people actually want infotainment screens?

The only thing I can think of wanting a screen for is a backup camera. I much prefer buttons when possible. I thought infotainment screens were just a way for manufacturers to save money on buttons. Why would you want one? Is there something I'm missing?

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[–] noodles@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Sorry, I meant that they're all too huge for European roads. Quality wise it varies considerably, Chevy group has kind of stepped it up and honda/the Koreans have slipped (though miles better than Stellantis group with Dodge and jeep still).

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

No. They're much more reliable and generally cheaper even with the tariffs

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 4 months ago

Only some places in Europe have roads too small to accomodate them, but regardless, these vehicles are stupid everywhere

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 60 points 4 months ago (6 children)

It'd be nice to get them out of America, too.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And Canada. They're everywhere here. Idiots only using them to commute to work every day.

"But I need it" Fuck off.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 6 points 4 months ago

Here's a due with a fukken Dodge RAM using it mainly to drive his daughter to school. It's ~800 meters, and there are hundreds of little kids walking that same route. Way to go, you lazy idiot.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] YashaB@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Thought I did, sorry. Fixed it now.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

The only thing more stupid than these tacky cars are the people sitting in them.

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Help how? I would love nothing more if I never had to see one again but I can hardly prohibit others from having one

[–] YashaB@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

Below the video you`ll find links to organisation competing this legislation. You can join those and support them.

If EU citizen, you can write to your member of the EU-parliament. Theres a pre-fabricated letter you can send in. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/search/advanced

He explains it in the conclusion of the video.

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[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 12 points 4 months ago

New f150s dwarf old f250s in size despite not being able to haul as much. I read somewhere that American farmers have a strong preference for pickups from the 90s because new trucks are worse at doing truck stuff in every way.

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

If only there was a youtube video that could summarize the issue for us.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stop being selfish and think of the shareholders! Buy a ridiculously oversized piece of crap truck to impress your neighbors. How else do you show how manly you are?!

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[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

There should be a system in place where, while not banned outright, private ownership of these trucks is dissuaded and favor is granted to commercial contractors. I don't know how such a system would be implemented but it would ensure that these behemoths stay off city streets. The obvious solution is to design streets that prioritize pedestrians and cyclists first, small cars second and commercial vehicles third but only if they're actively used in commercial labor.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 7 points 4 months ago

Make it really inconvenient to own one. Require a CDL and subject them to the same restrictions as commercial vehicles.

You want one? Ok, but it's going to be a pain in the ass.

[–] mjr 3 points 4 months ago

Nah, commercial vehicles shouldn't be given greater freedom to kill bystanders. Limit 'em to 45kph and have to display a yellow flashing knob beacon.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Some wealthy idiots in Europe will buy a handful of US pick-up trucks. The normal European would not waste their money on the insurance, emission taxes, fuel cost, and maintenance for that junk. Good luck parking it too. I always laughed when I saw a RAM on the Autobahn with the "AF" plates. Aral (Petrol Stations) were delighted when they had to fill it up off base.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is this a re upload?? I'm sure already saw that video some time ago

[–] turdas@suppo.fi 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He has another video about stupid American trucks, but it's about how stupid they are in America, not that politicians are trying to get them into Europe.

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[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The fucked-up thing is these hulking beasts are a recent construct, we used to have genuinely small trucks here once.

A stock S10 from the '80s, '90s, or early '00s is going to be significantly smaller than a stock Colorado you can pick up new off the lot right now, for example, and that S10 would've been more than good enough for things like basic junk runs to the scrapyard or for hardware store runs for things like bags of sand or whatever.

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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I wish we had better EV towing vehicles in the US… my lightning is just too fucking big, but it’s the only thing that tows a horse trailer that isn’t a Model X (100K$ starting, 40K$ more than I paid for the Lightning) or a Model Y (barely useable; custom built “euro” trailer required to stay within towing capacity).

[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

They are so terrible

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Please let us yanks know how to do the same after you figure this out.

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