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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 163 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Before children and during the pandemic I did, but with one simple change, home office instead of 3 hours commuting in heavy traffic.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 86 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Same.

I have no kids. My employer just told us we had to be in the office 5 days a week now and I don't have time to do anything anymore. I lost a big chunk of my spare time and freedom and I just feel like burning the office down now.

[–] Nomad 47 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Employer here. Look for an alternative offer to leverage. Tell both parties that home office guarantees in writing will have a lot of weight in your final decision.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 68 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Yeah that's what I've been trying to do. But nobody's hiring right now. Or they don't want to pay a decent salary.

Besides, they're already forcing us to wear a suit and tie. To be in a cubicle office as IT consultants. To communicate with each other via MS Teams...

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 24 points 2 weeks ago

But how else will your superior feel powerful?

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 21 points 2 weeks ago

This sounds like hell. I'm sorry to hear this.

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[–] kiterios@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Employee here. If you need an alternative offer to get reasonable considerations from your employer, just take the alternative offer. The employer clearly doesn't respect you and your current leverage is just a short term tool until they start taking advantage of you again.

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[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

Did they take your stapler?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 78 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If you bike to work, you feed two birds with one scone.

[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

It snowed 10 inches here today. Not really an option everywhere

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago

Then you're getting that upper body & core shovel workout.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Gotta put those snow tires on.

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[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 13 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

TIL it doesn't snow in Netherlands and Denmark /s

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[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 48 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Simple solution.

You have to make work side project too and gym what you for for fun / hobby.

Too bad if the only thing you hate more than exercise is the job.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I combined work and gym and I'm now doing back breaking labour. 10/10 would recommend

[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago

This guy understands capitalism.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you need to reassess your understanding of the definition of the word "simple".

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's simple, but it might not be easy

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 47 points 2 weeks ago

It's only really feasible if your fitness activities are also your hobbies and you have friends who share said hobbies. For example, rock climbing, running.

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Most of the people I know who do this consistently / longer-term are young adults and/or on drugs. Not like street drugs, but some combo of legally prescribed stimulant/anti-depressant/performance enhancing/hormone/weight-loss stuff. Modern medicine has the answers (for some).

A common scenario I'm seeing is that folks in their 30s, 40s, and 50s are being diagnosed with things like ADHD for the first time, and suddenly once they're on the proper stimulants, they can full throttle, always be doing something. I'm also seeing this a lot with folks who go on GLP-1 drugs. They lose a bunch of weight in a short amount of time and suddenly feel a lot better, mentally and physically. The other thing I see going on is people getting on hormone replacement or starting performance enhancing drugs a bit later in life, seems to be a real motivating factor for them since they're suddenly feeling 20 years younger.

So, maybe the answer is be young and if you can't be young, do drugs?

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 9 points 2 weeks ago

guess that's where many go wrong.. be young and do drugs

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[–] kieron115@startrek.website 33 points 2 weeks ago

I still think the 40-hour work week is inherently tied to the idea of the american nuclear family. The answer is that there simply isn't the time to do any of these things unless one person is doing the 40-hours a week office job and the other is doing the 40-hours a week "taking care of shit with the house/kids" job.

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 32 points 2 weeks ago

For a serious answer, it requires a level of strict discipline and adherence to schedule that makes any reward you get from it feel hollow

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

So, I knew people who do all those things. Work long days, go to the gym, have their hobbies... What they also did is:

  • have aspouse who does all their chores
  • Never do anything with said spouse
  • Wonder why their second marriage is failing

Although a lot of them also claimed to only need 5 hours of sleep.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

168 hours in a week

Minus 56 for sleep is 112

Minus 40 hour work week is 72

Minus half hour commute 5 days a week is 67

67

Minus 65 hours doomscrolling in bed is 2

How tf am I supposed to have hobbies and health with only 2 hours of free time every week?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

So, no laundry, eating, bathing, shitting, anything like that? What's your secret?

(In fairness shitting can be combined with either the 40hrs/work if you're smart, or with the 56hr/sleep if you're not, but then the no bathing or laundry becomes a bigger issue..)

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

People that do these things generally have a ton of energy, are incredibly disciplined, do things quickly, and to a pretty large amount, box-checkers and/or future-borrowers.

If you're a 45-60 minute showerer, you're going to have trade-offs

If you have threesomes during the week, you're going to have trade-offs

If you are the type of person who needs to actually feel peaceful the majority of the time, trade-offs

The ADHD person needs more hours in the day. For everyone else, there's half-assing it.

Priorities are everything. There isn't enough time to get everything in life. A lot of us have fallen con to the box-checker's quantity and compare ourselves to that. It may take some self work, but figuring out what actually makes you happy and what makes that sustainable is a pretty big, but worthwhile challenge. I'm in my 30s and still working on it, for what it's worth. Different people figure this stuff out at different rates, and my hypothesis is that your availability of resources and birth privileges are big factors in the time it takes to figure that out.

In other words, stop worrying about what makes other people happy, and focus on what makes you happy. There may be overlap, but there also may not be. We're all different and that's okay.

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[–] Acid_Burn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm pretty close to getting all these done most days but the only reason it's possible for me is because I work from home and make enough money to be slowly getting ahead.

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Also, as a society, we spend far too much time working to live and it’s bullshit.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (13 children)

5:30 - get up, get dressed, make the bed
5:45 - go for a walk with my wife and our cat
6:15 - shower, coffee, lemmy, household chores
7:30 - ride bicycle to work
8:30 - work starts
5pm - ride back home
6pm - cook and eat dinner
7pm - household chores
8pm - 1h free time
9pm - go to bed
So I manage to not fall behind on the household, shopping, sleep, me-time or exercise during the week.
I can carve out up to 4 hours for some special evening event once in a while.
Weekends are filled with side projects, visiting family and activities with friends.
Riding a bicycle to work was the game changer for me. It adds 2h of daily exercise and time to reflect during my commute.

[–] mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd say there's some differences between biking and gym in terms of whole body strength and flexibility, but it's good exercise. Definitely more productive than driving.

I think one point that can still be made is that this schedule means your average day (averaging over weekends) contains 7 hours of work/commute and only 3.5 hours of hobbies/activities.

A move to a 30 hour work week would mean that you would only spend 5.5-6 hours a day working and get 5 hours an average day for hobbies/activities.

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not while also being a parent. Most of my hobbies and leisure / friend time has taken a giant shit since I became a dad.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

I found a good friend group of families with similarly aged children within walking distance of my home. We meet up maybe once a week at one of the local restaurants with patio space and let the kids play while we catch up. That space of 2-3 hours does triple duty: catching up with friends, getting the kids out of the house to do high energy activities with friends, and feeding everyone for dinner on a weeknight.

Having that kind of social group is key. My parents had church, but I'm not religious, so it was important to at least find a way to replicate that social sense of community somehow when I had kids.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not with two kids I ain't doing all those, no.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Each day, I am just happy to have survived and have like 1 hour time to sit on the couch before going to bed at 9 pm.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, if part of your job involves physical activity and there's never overtime and it's not high stress and you have a short commute.

So, not my life right now, but that has been the case in the past.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't have to do everything every day

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[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 11 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Yes, but as you age you don't need as much socializing and you have established good friendships so you can jump right in.

But I do track everything for fun (like a diary). Last Sunday to Saturday i reached:At 7hrs 4min of excercise last week, 45.3 hrs sleep,, 1260 grams of protein, 7 pieces of nicotine gum, 28oz of whiskey (4oz/day), etc...

Highlights: Had a pr at the gym, squatted 410lbs. Baddthings: Had gym fail at ju jitsu, spit my mouth guard onto my bros face. Sorry C! Also argued w my sister over text

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[–] juliebean@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

the trick, i'd imagine, is to be rich enough that you don't have to deal with doing your own chores or errands (let the servants get groceries and cook and clean and drive you places).

[–] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You're not suppose to go to the gym every single day in most cases. The "average" resistance trainer might spend 3 hours total per week in the gym. (I.E. 3 days a week. 1 hour each session) Maybe more maybe less. Maybe a lot less. I only go once a week when I'm cutting. But that's just me. Granted his isn't including de-load weeks or full rest days. Which you absolutely need unless you're Achilles himself, and look what that got him.

If you're going to the gym "every day" for basic cardio. I would highly suggest investing in a home treadmill or similar instead. There are also a ton of stationary cardio exercises you can also look into or research online. Otherwise, most people can usually find some smaller, no bells and whistles, used treadmills/elipticals for fairly cheap if you look around and/or get lucky. Hell, I see people giving away cheap stationary bikes for free all the time. Depends on what you're looking for and what your goals are.

[–] fakir@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I really don't think that's possible if you're neurodivergent and unmedicated. There are too many bees buzzing in our heads to be that productive.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not all types of neurodivergence fit that description or require medication.

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[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Soulg@ani.social 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Those people don't have the 8 hours in the office

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I think it's all about priorities and as another guy said here at least a rough schedule/routine.

My hobby is being active (drumming multiple hours per day), then you can save the gym (I do some climbing now and then though). Commuting with bicycle to work also helps, work less (I do 25h/week which is max for me, I rather spend less money and live in a community than having to work more to finance myself, life does have too much interesting to offer than to spend all your time with working).

I also like to eat stuff like Huel (the savory stuff) which saves me time of cooking/buying groceries (and I have a rather high protein intake which is good for drumming, as fast/strong muscles/tendons are quite important (and it noticebly helps with growing muscles, I didn't want to believe until then how important high-protein intake is when being active)).

I basically don't play any video games (ironically I'm quickly bored), do some open source programming instead (so side-projects?), try to avoid "wasting" time on e.g. social media.

[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don’t have kids obviously.

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