Do you care about having decent enough devices to enjoy it or do you just buy the cheapest pair of earbuds to silence the world around you?
I have adopted the standard for headphones that it's not good enough unless this album sounds ok
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Do you care about having decent enough devices to enjoy it or do you just buy the cheapest pair of earbuds to silence the world around you?
I have adopted the standard for headphones that it's not good enough unless this album sounds ok
I've always loved music (especially rock n roll) and engaged with it on physical media. Grew up riding the back seat of my dad's car while he was blasting rock classics, and we had a basic hi-fi system that we'd play cassettes and CDs with, that my grandpa left us when he died.
I remember the first album I chose to play by myself, which was my older brother's Offspring's Ixnay On the Hombre (I was a kid and kids loved it) and the first album I bought with my allowance was Rage Against The Machine's Battle of LA, when I was a pre-teen.
Music was always a huge part of my life, for me and my brother, and I guess when the world was falling to pieces around our family life, those were the two things we could turn to, at the time.
When mp3 files became widespread in my teen years, we jumped on that bandwagon on it was a huge drive to discover even more music through Kazaa and the likes and, around that time, I started to fall in love with prog rock, and sites like progarchives had an embedded player that let you listen to some of the more well known tracks, which made me find a ton of bands, that would honestly be too obscure for anyone to know. I started going to live shows more, especially from some of those lesser known bands, because tickets were cheaper. Nowadays, everyone knows who Porcupine Tree are/were, so tickets are pricier, most likely.
When I got to college, we were on a family Summer vacation on a beach town and me and my brother stumbled upon a quaint little music store, that had some bootleg live albums from more of these geeky bands, and in an unassuming shelf in the back, they had some used LPs. They were 50cent to 1€ a piece, so we thought 'why not?' and bought them for the novelty of the vintage media. One of them was an early French press from ELP's first album, and the other was rock n roll Mecca for us and our dad: Van Halen's debut album. When we got back home, we set up the turn table from grandpa's hi-fi system, which had always been disconnected up to then, and our jaw dropped when we played Van Halen. We couldn't believe how much better it sounded than a digitally remastered CD version he owned, it was like experiencing the album for the first time, the way it was meant for it to sound, much more open with a wide soundstage and that analogue organic sound. I remember ELP blew MY socks off, because it was also my first time listening to that album itself and it sounded amazing both musically and sonically (if that makes any sense).
This kickstarted a whole new collector's road for us and we started to discover music again by the way certain albums sounded on certain masters. Around this time, vinyl was also starting to make a comeback in mainstream stores, but at this point we thought the 1st pressings were the one true way to listen to those 70s records, and on one of our runs around music stores, we come across our white whale, shaped in Black Sabbath. An early Vertigo (label company from around the time) press of Vol.4. But it was pricey. Way too pricey for our limited college survival funds (probably around 50€).
We'd always stop by the store to see if it was still there and if it was discounted if it was, but alas, early Sabbath pressings never go down in price. So come Christmas time, I decide to go with a grand gesture and buy my brother the fabled Vol.4 on display, but someone had already taken it. And after all this time scoping it too. So I guess the next best thing is to find another version of it and I get a more recent press from around the 00's. Got back home to wrap it before anyone gets in the house, but that doesn't go well either, because of all people, my brother comes home with a friend and catches me wrapping his present, so there goes the surprise. I show what I got him and he and his buddy start laughing hard. "Hey man, I know it's a repress, but goddamn, it's probably not that bad to laugh about, they were out of the Vertigo press". His buddy chimes in: "No, dude, we're not laughing at that." So my brother goes to the other room and gets out that very same Vol.4 on display that we were stalking for weeks. It was HIS Christmas gift to ME.
Fast forward to present day, we're both older, have pretty upgraded audio gear considering how we started, a bigger collection of media, branched off to some different musical styles, but last night my brother was showing off an audiophile remaster (the latest Mo-Fi) of ELP's first, and my newborn niece is falling asleep in his arms, while the piano is seemingly raining down on Take a Pebble. He looks up from his daughter to ask "Hey, do you remember that summer vacation by the beach town?" and we both smile.
Music hits different throughout the years, the formats, the styles, the gear, etc., and sometimes I'm sad I just don't have as much time to sit down and listen to those records. But it's always been there, weathering me through the ages like a brother.
I think I care more than I should. But then most people didn't have their childhood shaped mostly by rhythm games so...
I have a very specific taste for music, and on top of that I basically don't listen to anything lower than a subjective 8 out of 10 in my books. Also some meme songs are timeless masterpieces (no I'm not giving examples)
Music is leaning much more towards art for me
Do you care about having decent enough devices to enjoy it or do you just buy the cheapest pair of earbuds to silence the world around you?
I think good quality devices are important for the experience, but I stay in the sub $500 range for portable. Diminishing returns with honest claims at least. Get expensive enough and there's just snake oil scams or bling cringe at the very top. My surround sound speakers I've been re-using most of them on multiple receivers since 2014 and won't replace them unless they break. They were mid range at the time. I've replaced the center speaker and sub woofer with better ones.
Do you have favorite albums or do you just hit play on a random playlist and zone out?
Do you spend time searching for music?
I go through phases where I'll browse Bandcamp for a few hours as an example, buy a few albums and then listen to the same album(s) on repeat almost every day for awhile if I find any worthy of that. That's usually because of the lyrics primarily, and relating to what the artist is singing about strongly. This happens most often with modern/recent Psychedelic Rock. I'll post a song from a local band for a bonus: https://youtu.be/1iyfXDFBgHw
I listen to F.M. radio when commuting, and discover new artists to lisyen to this way pretty often. Usually I screenshot the playlist history on CKUA app and then look them up at home later. Really only that one station: https://ckua.com/ donor sponsored radio. My favourite segment is The Road Home: https://roadhome.fm/ which conveniently is scheduled as I'm getting ready for work and ends when I arrive to work. The host lives alone in the forest in a cabin wood fire heated with his dogs. He mixes spoken word, poetry, music, letters people send him, stories, and more all together. Wild life noises and the fireplace can be heard in the background whenever he's talking. Often birds and squirrels. It's most excellent. This is 50/50 with commuting. I also like total silence with earplugs in while driving half the time.
Or my YouTube playlist on regular YouTube (ReVanced for screen off playback) which I've been adding to ever since 2006. I don't use any other music streaming services and pay for none.
There's also my NAS and bittorrent, but I've been buying music a lot more often these days. I like vinyl which is why I use Bandcamp so much. Usually you get a digital copy when buying vinyl, though I do buy digital only too.
Do you ever listen to music just to enjoy it and nothing else?
Yeah, usually that's through the Shortwave application on Linux. Both on my desktop and living room PC. That's for internet radio. I pay less attention to it. Background noise for chores, web surfing, or hosting dinner dates.
Do you talk with passion about your favorite songs/albums/artists?
No because nobody I know cares about music I like :(
TL;DR is music art or content to you?
Art! Usually.
Music isn't something I take super seriously. It's background noise to listen to at work or while driving to help keep me focused instead of my mind taking over and giving me reasons to have an anxiety attack. I listen with whatever wireless earbuds I can find at a decent price and can last long enough to not die during my work shift. I appreciate it more when used well in films or videogames, but on its own I don't really think much about it.
I love music. It makes everything better and you can just put it on in the background. "House/EDM" music is my jam, but I love how many weird niche genres there are. Like Japanese City Pop, and then Future Funk, which is just remixed City Pop lol. Electro Swing is a genre I've been getting into lately. I'll listen to anything but the hardest of dubstep. Twinsick, Gabriel & Dresden, Two Friends, all artists I listen to quite a bit. Although The Drums might be my favorite non-house/edm artist to listen to.
How about you? Are you a lover of music too or were you just curious?
i fucking LOVE music, love discovering weird genres, small artists, songs with a strong idea behind it even if they are badly produced. I always search new ways to enjoy the music that i already like for example rythm games; after playing osu i started tapping in sync and vibing with songs even if they're from a random speaker on the street. Lately i've been obsessed with sleep token, to the point that people on the train think i'm crazy because when that part from Gethsemane starts playing i MUST headbang it.
And the reason why i made this post is because i often feel like i'm the only person that actually cares about the music they're listening to
For me Music requires least amount attention span compared to other media forms (example : background listening without "missing" anything (visually|otherwise)) , but always struggled paying attention lyrics unless reading off lyric sheet
Need decent quality wireless headphones (with optional wired connection) to not have everything sound like ass , learning to DJ so audio file quality must be gꝏd enough to withstand (pitch change|stem separation|time stretching|.*)
1️⃣ thing am big sucker for's beautiful cover art . See my https://lemmy.world/c/albumartporn posts get gꝏd idea of my album art tastes
Don't really have reason to listen to music , just do lol ! Lotta gꝏd stuff out there ‼️ Don't think there's word for its vastness . Not very gꝏd at talking rn srry
1: MDR 7506 2: I have favorites which change constantly. 3: Sure 4: Yes 5: Yes TLDR: Yes
it's complicated. from crappy speakers, hate all music. with a good enough sound system i like music in movies and shows, but i don't like if it's played as just music. and i hate listening to music in a car regardless of quality
I am an enthusiast but not a musician. So somewhere in the middle I guess? I try to go to several live shows every year, I'm aware of when someone I like puts out new music, I seek out unknown artists because I do love live performances more than recordings.
I care enough about sound to buy Klipsch Bluetooth speakers on sale for the portable ones, all wired earbuds sound fine to me, as do the Google speakers we have paired to do stereo in the living room. I don't have the sort of ears that can tell great from good speakers, but can't listen to music on my phone speaker like my kids & husband can, those are so bad it bothers me.
Music to me is art and entertainment, I don't think I'd call it content.
I view music as both art and content, considering I'm basically always listening to it in my free time if I'm not watching or listening to a video. I absolutely LOVE it!
Normally, before a couple Christmases ago, I would just buy some wired Sony headphones and call it a day because they just worked. Exception being a pair of Skull Candy headphones I bought because I've been unable to get the headphone jack working on my laptop after installing Linux, but that's off topic.
A couple Christmases ago I got a pair of over the ear Beats ( usually prefer in ear, but whatever, it was a gift ). They have basically been exclusively what I use to listen to everything on my devices that have Bluetooth capabilities. They are the absolute best headphones I have ever owned.
My tastes aren't as varied as others, but I still have a wide variety of over 500 unique songs on the SD on my phone from over the years. Everything from various Chinese and Japanese songs using things like Vocaloid, UTAU, DeepVocal, etcetera, to 90s music from For Squirrels to R.E.M. to Soul Coughing, to anime music to a little bit of Sonic music.
I know this will kinda dox ( doxx? ) where I was for Thanksgiving, but I went for the 2nd time to a Thanksgiving Throwdown while visiting family and saw a group local to that city live for a second time. I bought a couple of their albums last year and highly recommend the album Convalescence from The Nixon Rodeo, especially their song Deafening ( available on yt ). I would describe it as emotionally hard rock.
I was also a music kid when I was in public school. Besides the mandatory music classes I had in elementary school, I joined that school's drama/choir for maybe a year or two, and went from 5th-12th in orchestra. Don't have my viola anymore because I lost it in a rush move, but I now have an acoustic guitar that I've had for about a half a year now. Haven't done much with it since I don't have the money for lessons or any books to help me learn, but I'm hoping to get at least one book this Christmas. I'd go online, but with the rise of AI slop and low effort things that don't teach you a damn thing, I'd rather get some books to start.
So, given my background, I can't not think of music as an art.
Music is art to me, no question at all. I care a great deal about it, and don't listen, and by that I mean really sit and listen, often enough. But yesterday I came across a video by Mary Spender about some emails she got in regard to some Spotify statements she made, and it reminded me of what a real pleasure music is when I actually attend to it, so last night I sat and listened to two full albums start to finish, and it was a joy. I used to do that frequently, that's how my generation did it back in the day, and now I'm reminded so I will likely do that more often. I don't talk with passion about my favorites because nobody knows who the fuck I'm talking about anymore, but I definitely think of them that way.
My headset is decent, and I have good speakers, but I don't do earbuds. I never need the very very best of devices because back in the day, these analog releases had to sound good on the shittiest of car speakers and even transistor radios, so while I absolutely get more nuance from better devices, it's not the be-all end-all.
The only streaming service I have is my own CD library ripped into MP3s, because of course the vast majority of artists I listen to recorded back in the days of analog and full albums, plus I have bought MP3s of various one-hit wonders, so there is literally zero upside to me in a subscription service. As others far more astute than myself have noted, the algorithms don't even really direct you toward new-to-you music, nor to music that will actually "interest" you, nearly as much as it is designed to suggest music that you will not click away from. I used to try suggested music but have never actually liked anything musically I got from a "Suggested for You" source, so I don't bother anymore, and to me I miss nothing.
I have often searched YT for more of the same by a specific artist I am already into, or for something I heard while watching a movie, but other than that, no, I do not search for new music. I've already got so much to enjoy, I don't ever want it to fade into background noise.
I care a fair bit about music, but in a way that's likely very unpopular around these parts.
I'm a fan of AI-generated music. I've got about 600 songs I've generated over the years and almost all of them are about things and are in styles that I personally find relevant to my interests and life.
Some of your other questions are rendered moot by this. There's no albums or artists for these songs. I've loosely grouped them into a few giant playlists based on the sort of mood they fit. I listen to them while doing things like walking my dog. I don't use particularly fancy earbuds or other hardware, though I made sure to get decent speakers for my computer for while I work on them to make sure they're high quality at their source.
Since most of the songs are personally meaningful to me, if only because they scratched a very particular itch I was having the day I generated them, I care about them. I don't expect most of them would be of interest to other folk. I mostly don't share them since they're for me and anyone else can easily generate their own custom stuff, though I've made some public when they've struck me as particularly amusing or interesting.
Interesting, can't say i do the same but I'm curious about what you like about it. I usually want to be surprised by the music that i listen to (in both a good and bad way), then use the albums as lockets with specific vibes/memories/styles which differ greatly from each other, and i feel like with AI i would lose it.
It's a difficult question to answer, "why do you like the things that you like?"
There is surprise that can be had at the generation phase. Sometimes I've got a particular detailed thing in mind that I'd like to hear about, I can end up writing pages of prompts, hand-tweaking the lyrics extensively, and regenerating bits until it's just right. Other times I'll throw out a very general vibe and just see what the AI comes up with. Some of my favourites are songs that definitely surprised me.
I'm actually not very familiar with the specific ways of describing the sound of different styles of songs - pop-rock, folk ballad, driving bass lines, all those sorts of descriptive terms are lost on me. So I usually let the AI come up with something for that based on a more general vibe, like I tell it a song should be "upbeat" and "informative" and it'll come up with something. I get to hear a lot of variety that way.
Would you like me to link specific examples? Honestly I was expecting more of an "AI sucks and you suck" kind of response but I guess there's enough responses to this post that I haven't been noticed in among them all, so I could show you a playlist or a few specific tracks that show the kind of music that I enjoy that I don't think I'd have ever been able to find in significant quantities from "traditional" music sources.
I admit that i am closer to the "AI bad" movement than not but curiosity wins anyway, i would be very happy to give it a try
Alright, here's what's probably my most diverse and "fun" playlist: Funny How Science Works. It's a collection of songs about science and technology. Each song often starts out technical and educational and then veers off into insanity. For example Tectonic Truth, which is about plate tectonics, and Along the Lines of Blaschko, which is about Blaschko lines, a pattern of cell differentiation found in females but not in males as a result of X-chromosome inactivation (I think this is probably the only song in existence about Blaschko's lines). Others are a bit less deranged, for example Million Player Co-Op is just about how awesome ants are. And speaking of ants, Little Pilot is about Dicrocoelium dendriticum, the liver lancet fluke, a parasitic flatworm that uses ants as an intermediate host.
Criterion Three is about how the IAU reclassified Pluto as a dwarf planet in 2006 and in particular it's about how much of a hypocrite S. Alan Stern was about it. This is perhaps one of the pettiest and most specific diss tracks I'm aware of. Speaking of diss tracks, The Pro-K is sung by a prokaryotic bacterium dissing eukaryotes for how unreasonably complicated our cellular structure is.
If you're leaning anti-AI then you might enjoy my AI Apocalypse playlist, which is a bunch of songs along the general theme of AIs taking over the world. I'm not personally concerned about the stereotypical Skynet bombs-and-Terminators scenario, that's Hollywood, but I do have some concern about the emergence of a Super-Persuader AI that's better at convincing people to do stuff than humans are. So a number of the songs are along those lines.
Many of the songs in these playlists are ones where I wrote pages of detailed prompts and tinkered with the results, since they involve personal philosophies and technical scientific subjects that I wanted to make sure were right. Here's an example of a song that was generated with just a simple prompt to see what would come out; Insert Romance Here, which I generated by simply telling the AI "generate the most absolutely generic possible romantic song."
Here's a playlist of songs that's entirely about the RS-232 standard, a standard introduced in 1960 for serial transmission of data.
A lot of the songs in these lists have probably only been listened to by me, nobody else has ever heard them. It's a little annoying that Producer.ai, the service I used to generate all of these, doesn't support attaching an "author's note" to each song; many of these only really make any sense with a little bit of context about what was in my head when I generated them. But hopefully most of the ones I've made public are self-explanatory to some degree.
Sorry for the late reply, it was a busy day. Anyway i heard some songs and i think i get the appeal of having songs that talk about specific topics that no regular musician would cover. The thing holding me back is that they don't reach the level of detail and consistency that human artist can achieve, especially regarding instrumentals. Not for me but definetly worth a try
Thanks for giving it a fair shake, and not just defaulting to "AI bad!", though. I figured it was unlikely that you'd like these specific songs, since the whole point is that they are specifically for me - often a result of an in-joke that exists solely inside my head (the reason I made so many songs about the RS-232 standard, for example, is based on a gag from an episode of the British TV show "Spitting Image" that I saw maybe 30 years ago at this point).
But that's the point, in the end. These songs are "mine", they don't need to be anyone else's. I just hope that a few of them at least elicited a chuckle, if only at the fact that they existed. :)