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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 146 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Just imagine living in a first world country where they provide free Netflix instead of maintaining an insanely large military.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 94 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As an American, I'd rather die a preventable death then share free healthcare with someone I don't think deserves it! /s

[–] lonefighter@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 weeks ago

How dare someone who is dying of cancer and is too sick to work anymore get free Netflix! They can work for it like everyone else! I'm not subsidizing their Netflix /s

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've heard people honestly defending paying more for healthcare rather than having "freeloaders".

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you ever ask them why they're paying more to hurt people? I'd think they'd be on it just for the "you're gonna pay less money" line, but racists gonna racist...

(It may just be my experience, but these types tend to be racist and that's one of the driving factors, not paying for minorities)

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 25 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

This point is overdone, but Americans spend more than other developed countries on healthcare, so it's not even an austerity thing.

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But then we wouldn't be able to murder a bunch of random Venezualans or lose wars that we started against overwhelmingly inferior opponents.

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[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 102 points 2 weeks ago (30 children)

Americans are amazing. Their healthcare system is literally killing them and ruining their families, and they keep talking about how bad "socialism" is...

The amount of bullshit this people buy is incredible.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

TBF a shitload of us know how socialized health care works. We want it.

There’s a massive, massive industry that is working very hard to make sure that it doesn’t happen.

[–] lonefighter@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I work in healthcare. I feel like more and more people are wanting some sort of universal healthcare in the last few years, even if they are conservative, even if they'll vote against it, and even if the term "universal healthcare" will have them up in arms. But the concept itself? They're all for it, they complain that healthcare is too expensive and insurance companies aren't covering things and the system needs to change. They're getting there. It's taking them getting fucked over for it to happen and most of us may be dead of completely preventable causes first, but they just might get there.

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 25 points 2 weeks ago

Living amongst these people is a baffling and frustrating experience.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

10 years ago, we almost had medicare for all as a public healthcare option. We were soooo close. But congress fucked it up necause they were lobbied by ins companies who knew everyone with a brain would flock to the public option.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And what the insurance companies got instead was literally a law forcing everyone to buy their shitty products. Imagine the tobacco companies being so successful at lobbying that they got a law passed requiring everybody to smoke.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

Their systems are killing them, their cops are killing them, their guns are killing them, their politicians are on record saying they hate them, their religious leaders are clearly stealing from them while they abuse their children, they hate traffic but refuse to do anything about including keeping cars but using roundabouts, and the propaganda that they claim is corrupting their minds is so pathetic that even a toddler should be able to see past it like it’s made of crystal-clear glass.

The reason I hate the US is because they have zero excuses and still fuck things up in so many obvious ways while anyone with more than a few braincells screams at them to please just stop chugging rat poison and all they can say is “but it’s different here, we aren’t Europe” as if that’s any kind of excuse.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

and the rest of the economy is heading in this direction soon. Rent seeking needs to be outlawed

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Let’s start with outlawing lobbying. That’s how you get started on getting rid of “rent seeking”.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Universal healthcare is so hard that only 32 of the 33 highly developed countries in the world do it.

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[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How about when the website explicitly says your subscription covers Stranger Things, but you watch Stranger Things, and they then bill you $80.

Then you follow the steps to dispute it on their website. And they say they didn't make any mistakes. Then you do the follow-up appeal via snail-mail and they say that there's still nothing wrong.

(My experience with UHC and a cholesterol test)

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Took two appeals and 7 months but I finally got UHC to cover a test. The final successful action was a screenshot from the plan brochure that showed that they needed to cover it…

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Got laid off that job and now paying out of pocket for a much better plan and I've never been happier.

Just a cool $1800/mo.

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[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

In Taiwan, I pay for Universal Healthcare because I own a business. 5800nt(185usd) every 2 months for a familyof 4. It would be 3000nt(100usd)for 2 months if it's just myself.

The copay is 10usd for everything. Fever? Food poisoning? Chemotherapy? All the same cost. This includes all the medications and all incidental costs.

If you worked for a Taiwan company, you don't have to pay the 5800nt. But the copay is the same.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

So this sucks but you can avoid this with a simple trick. Call your insurance company first with the CPT codes for what you need done and where you plan to get it done. Your doctors office can give you the codes. They aren’t a trade secret or anything. Get diagnoses codes too if you can. Have the insurance company run the codes for you before you go. This does a couple things:

  1. You verify everyone involved is in network (be wary of anesthesiologists)
  2. You are getting a quote on a recorded line. The end price won’t be exact (especially is if the claim involves a hospital, fuck them, go to smaller providers whenever you can)
  3. if you get sticker shock anyway, you can call the insurance company back on that same recorded line and say the word “misquote”. This triggers an investigation that can strengthen your appeal.
  4. You now have evidence you can file internally with a quality of care/quality of service complaint if the provider did something shady with the billing, or with your state’s department of insurance if your insurance company is being bitchy.

Ideally, we would have single payer insurance, but we instead have a government that pays itself to make private enterprise do its job, then the shareholders in that private enterprise make sure nothing ever gets changed. -sigh-

In the mean time, if you really want to fuck them over, consider switching to health insurance company that does not have shareholders. In many states, they are legally mandated to refund any profit they make over a certain percentage at the end of the year and without shareholders, it’s harder to hide the money, which puts much more pressure on them to spend it on patient care.

United Health Care want you to believe their way is the only way to do this. They are wrong. A shareholder-free insurer still isn’t perfect but the pressures are different without the parasites.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fact you have to jump through these hoops at all IS FUCKING STUPID AND ISNT HOW IT SHOULD WORK.

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[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

is this seriously what you americans have to do?

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[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's like they've made the system so convoluted that you have to be an underwriter to receive services.

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[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

Any tips on finding an insurance company in your state that doesn't have shareholders? A big part of the insurance issue is that you have to practically be an industry insider to navigate... Anything in insurance, really.

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[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I hear you. How does one pirate health insurance?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Sail the seven seas to medical tourism

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[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

It's much worse because you can choose not to watch Netflix but you don't have much choice if you are sick.

It's more like receiving a bill for songs you hear on the radio in the grocery store, on the bus, in other people's cars passing by. You didn't ask for the benefit, could not really negotiate it, but it was useful to you when you got it. You could maybe avoid it by not leaving your house.

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[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

It's not stupid, it's nefarious. Free Luigi!

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yaaahr hold still on the kitchen table. I be removing your appendix with a steak knife

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 18 points 2 weeks ago

"You wouldn't download ~~a car~~ healthcare."

The fuck I wouldn't!

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

After recently apartment hunting, I have a (slightly tangential) gripe to add on here.

When I was getting my income verification (to prove I could afford the proposed rent), it went off gross income - what you make before taxes and so-called “benefits” are taken out. The hundreds I pay each month for the “benefit” of being insured make a significant difference between what I make and what I take home. Do I make 3x a given rent? Well technically, by gross income, I do. But my net income is where that rent payment comes from, so the chunk of my take-home going toward rent is absolutely higher than 1/3 of the net income I can actually use.

I have no choice but to pay for this “benefit.” Notice I keep using quotation marks. That’s because I think the term is bullshit. I think a work-sponsored benefit should be something work provides. Yeah, maybe they got a “deal” to offer insurance to employees for lower than it’d cost to buy for ourselves, but come on. If work really wanted to call it a “benefit,” they should pay us more so the numbers even out on our take-home. We’re forced into these situations, yet employers have the nerve to use a term that implies they’re offering some special bonus to us.

Okay, enough ranting for now. No, wait - prescriptions! That’s another health-related cost that isn’t deducted, that I still have to pay for, despite having insurance.

The screws keep tightening around us workers and there’s no escape. I really hope Mamdani sparks inspiration across the country, because this shit is untenable.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

https://www.yesigiveafig.com/p/part-1-my-life-is-a-lie

Basically, stuff that used to be cheap has been turned into “markets” and now the entire middle class is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.

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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck the American healthcare system and fuck Netflix

[–] amorangi@lemmy.nz 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

In my 50s, I pay $25/week for private health insurance, that covers 100%, non urgent surgery in weeks, gourmet food etc. If I didn't pay for private insurance it would be terrible - I might have to wait months for elected surgery, and the food would not be gourmet. It would still be 100% free though. I live in a first world country though, not USA.

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You forgot that if you don't have a good job you are deemed not worthy of netflix and have to pay more atevery single step listed.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck that. Im not paying Dwayne Johnson shit.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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