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Oh boy oh boy oh boy! I heard them French crown jewels are magnificent!
Someone has to pay for security they finally figured out is needed
But I can still get in that back window for free, right?
BYOCS (bring your own circular saw).
Edit: fixed cheeky abbreviation.
BYOCC (bring your own circular saw)
Shouldn’t that be BYOCS?
I've been to Russia (st. Petersburg) where entering a church would cost $10, but for Russians a couple of rubles.
It makes sense from the perspective that locals should be able to afford seeing their own art and architecture. If foreigners can afford it and are willing to pay the asked amount, I sort of understand.
That’s generally how you want to set up your tourist attractions. They provide entertainment and draw for residents and you pass upkeep costs onto the visitors.
I usually agree with this point but it does create an awkward spot for museums with a lot of international exhibits. Like, you did a colonialism, stole my peoples stuff, brought it back here, and are now charging me extra to see it? Idk how you get around that, except maybe returning the stuff I guess.
Yea returning the stuff and allowing the origin countries profit off it would be nice. We lose a lot of history to war torn countries tho. Preservation has a cost and its own logistics. If you knew the item would be pawned off or destroyed; morally I’d like the history with someone who has the resources to preserve it and share it with as many as possible. International travelers can probably afford the hit. Presuming the effected people you describe can afford to travel.
If you knew the item would be pawned off or destroyed; morally I’d like the history with someone who has the resources to preserve it and share it with as many as possible.
I recall this being discussed a while back after yet another overzealous regime destroyed some of their culture and heritage; preserving this history under capable custody would have been beneficial for everyone. I get it's complicated but for the most part these well run long lived museums in stable countries provide a great service to humanity.
Yea, it would be interesting to have a global body like the UN working on this with public opinion. We can always be seeking a more moral and just world.
I’m in the USA: proof that a rich country will destroy their own history without much thought so ya it’s become increasingly nuanced as time progresses
Given the stolen artifacts if anything non-eu should pay much less.
People give the British Museum a lot of shit, but it's free all year round for everyone.
Well I mean they didn't pay for most of the stuff in there in the first place
They spend over £50,000,000/year on care, research, and conservation.
A significant portion of what we know about the ancient world is a direct result of their research sharing and activities; for example when the Rosetta Stone was in French hands they kept it to themselves, when it was in Egypt they did nothing with it, but when it came to Britain it was shared with research departments across Europe as well as in Britain, resulting in our ability today to read hieroglyphics and demotic script.
Think about that for a second: if the Rosetta Stone had been left in Egypt, there's every possibility that Egyptians today would still have no idea about most of their own history or how to read their own ancient texts. You might dismiss this as paternalistic or white-savioury, but it's true nonetheless.
Even as recently as last year we had researchers finding things like https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/babylonian-map-world-0021631 that simply wouldn't have happened without the British Museum's work. So, I'm inclined to cut them some slack.
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I wonder how many artifacts are stolen from France old colonies
I doubt there are that many in the Louvre. Probably more in other museums.
Any evidence?
I found this page with many example of stolen artifacts in French museums a lot of them in Louvre just by Napoleonic armies alone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_art_looted_by_Napoleonic_armies
Just a hunch to be honest. But the list you provided does not show artifacts from the french colonies.
the french stole quite a bit from their colonies but they're not even close to the british, which looted from a sizable part of the entire world
How will they decide which ticket you get? Do you need a passport to enter the Louvre?
They‘ve been checking IDs since around 2001. Something major must have happened that year…
Usually they just ask. A lot of museums in EU are free for EU citizens. I was never asked to prove I'm from EU, only asked. Other museum are free for city residents and in those they do ask for an ID.
It's pretty normal to need different ID cards to use some services in the EU.
You need student ID for student tickets, on the train if there is a senior or a youth discount they check for ID.
If you are an EU citizen, your ID is valid everywhere in the EU, no passport needed.
32 whole euros a 45% increase?!. OMG!
In seattle it's 25usd to enter a third class shitty aquarium, and it doesn't even have historical artifacts, and barely any fish
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