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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 249 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Even if that did happen, it wouldn't defeat the point of the disclosures at all. In fact, people will appreciate it all the more if a game is made without any AI involvement and it will become a selling point.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 100 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Plus, shouldn’t he want that information to be front and center anyway if he actually thinks it’s a good thing?

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago

He, like the that Microsoft suit, has just enough awareness to realize how AI is being thought of by the general public, and knows it would affect his bottom line. Which is really all he cares about.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I only play organic games.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

I think it would be helpful to know how AI is used.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

It already is becoming a positive marketing point!

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[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 119 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm glad that Tim Sweeny and its Epig Games Store is not the market leader.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 49 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

lol I just found my 7 year old post on Reddit (when Reddit was cool) of a Epig Games logo creation: https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckepic/comments/bvw5ru/epig_games/

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

But pigs are cute :(

Why associate them with such a shit company?

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 92 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Tim Fashy again demonstrates why Steam is as successful as it is without a monopoly.

Also, another reason to never, ever do anything to do with epic, proven by the Chief Enslavement Officer itself.

[–] who@feddit.org 68 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

PC gamers (sample size: at least 1) say they struggle to think of anything valuable that Tim Sweeney has ever said.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 26 points 3 weeks ago

Up that sample size to 2 baybee

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[–] SpaceScotsman@startrek.website 62 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sugars and additives are in nearly all foods, maybe we should stop asking manufacturers to disclose it on the ingredients list.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 60 points 3 weeks ago

Information good. Hiding information bad. Nefarious intentions.

[–] Durandal@lemmy.today 55 points 3 weeks ago

We're seeing the rise of push back against AI gen stuff... https://www.theverge.com/entertainment/827650/indie-developers-gen-ai-nexon-arc-raiders

Doubling down on the glazing of the ai bubble is pretty on brand for him. In before "tim sues steam for spurious claims against ai" or some other bullshit.

Sidenote: IsThereAnyDeal.com has the steam ai declarations as part of the quick reference section on game pages now. https://mastodon.social/@isthereanydeal/115606686918493913

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

If most games will contain AI content, then an "AI-free" badge couldn't be more important. He must understand that that statement is a complete logical fallacy, right?

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

It's Tim Sweeney, he doesn't understand where the sun goes at night.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 52 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If it's available in "nearly all" development then you can switch the tag to say "no AI" and then I can continue discovering and buying games that don't have that BS.

But we all know, as does Sweeney, that that's a lie. And also that I wouldn't shop for games on Epic Store anyway, for reasons just like this.

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[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tim continues to not 'read the room'

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

On the wrong side of nearly everything. Disappointing, he was a gaming pioneer. Now just a petty greedy corpo.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 40 points 3 weeks ago

Then put the disclaimer in all games? So what, not like they're limited quantity

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes, like we don't have Handmade tags in products...

I dont know about the future, but a "No AI-Art" tag, makes sense to me.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago

And CEOs will be the easiest position to replace with AI. Can't wait for the share holders to figure that out.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 33 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

yea that's just playing on semantics. Of course machine learning will keep assisting many different workflows, thank you Tim.
Go ahead with your ML-assisted procedural animations, your ML-enhanced denoising, your ML-powered stochastic mesh pruning.

What people don't want is generated visuals/music that try and pass off as art. I'd love to summon debility to explain that the ruling class doesn't get it, but they do -it's a convenient way for them to save on human labor that is also... just too tempting to use for replacing art as well.

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[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 weeks ago

And wonder why Steam is succeeded but Epic is an AI slop wasteland

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And people wonder why Epic games has the smallest market share of all the game stores

[–] Reference4054@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I can't imagine why people aren't flocking to the Epic Store. Must be Valves fault.

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[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

They make sense because we don't want your AI shit Sweeney

[–] Nils@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Then some clueless person complains that Steam dominates the market. When Epic is constantly shooting their foot.

People like to make informed decisions and those labels help. In proper countries even beer have content labels to say if there is rice or corn with the barley.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Never buy another Epic game again, understood!

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 weeks ago

Tim: Valve doesn't understand the market. AI is going to lead gaming industry.

Also Tim: VALVE IS A MONOPOLY AND SHOULD SEIZE TO EXIST.

[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

"Crypto/NFT disclosures make no sense, because all games will become "Play to Earn" and have NFT objects where you can transfer your Mario hat to COD 2028."

I am being glib, Sweeney probably has a point, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't take a critical look at his intentions.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is why Epic is losing lol

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 19 points 3 weeks ago

These guys live in a bubble, huffing each others’ farts

[–] jaselle@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago

It being ubiquitous does not mean it makes no sense. They can still say how and to what extent gen AI was used.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tim can suck my sweaty balls.

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[–] Angelevo@feddit.nl 15 points 3 weeks ago

More info = good.

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

nahh men. This is why you (Epic) are giving away games every week for free. Nobody likes you

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[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Epic CEO [Tim Sweeney] is an idiot

[–] holymole@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago

I guess I won't be buying nearly all games.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

Tim Sweeny doesn't understand the very people he wants to have give him money. Like, at all.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Super effective slop filter you say? Sign me the fuck up!

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Sweeney is not very smart, is he?

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