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I miss them so badly

This is such a disappointing alternative

I absolutely do. I've often dreamed of setting up a forum for my immediate friend group but I don't think the idea would get a lot of traction.

If you spend enough time and effort in selected communities on Lemmy you can get a similar experience.

And of course the necro-haters when you reply to something that is older than a week. So the spirit of old times is still there.

I still use them, because they're awesome.
They're not gone, although there are quite a bit fewer than some time ago.

I like forums, but maybe I'm part of the problem. I've read a forum obsessively for years without registering an account. Even when I have an account, I rarely post/comment. I've been reading Lemmy almost daily for over a year before registering an account and don't reply much even with an account. Decentralization starts with individuals, so I'm going to try to add signal to the fediverse.

I generally prefer the traditional flat forum UI with oldest first, but that's mostly a client issue. The problem though is if others are using a different UI the conversation may flow differently (think threaded vs flat forums).

RE karma, a lot of forums show post counts and like counts next to their forum profile, which is often included in every reply, so in some ways, the likes (karma) was a little more in your face. I think there was less astro turfing due to scope of benefit. What I mean is that while traditional forums were decentralized, so was the account and its reputation, so karma (like/post count) farming was isolated to that specific forum/community and if you were astro turfing, you'd get banned and lose that and could not transsfer that to other forums. Services like reddit effectively make this transferrable between forums. I'm concerned about how this will play out as decentralized platforms grow. It could be worse than reddit. I've been trying to come up with ways to handle this, but I can find flaws in every idea I've had so far.

I remember back in 2007,2008 etc I had an app on my phone that had tons of forums on it. I spent years on that app reading, learning, screen shorting, so much information. It was my favorite app. Few years later I get a new phone and can’t find that app anymore. There was a woodworking forum, electricians forum, welding forum, weed forum, and so many others. All in one single app.

Couldn’t find any of the forums. Depressing.

I still use a traditional forum, so in that sense I don't miss them, no 😁

I went back to blacksmithforums.com just now, to my surprise, they changed their software. Now I can't find all the posts that I saved about historical researches...

There are still quite many game developers' forums, but what bothers me a little bit is that sometimes the long living ones periodically lost their past.

That's what the Steam Forums are for. I Wonder if Eve Online still has it's fancy website forums.

I don't care much about karma (that would be up and downvotes, around here) but I do miss the old forums not being centralized and/or owned by a single entity or authority or, more exactly, not being the only space available no matter who owned it.

This allowed for a lot more divergence of opinions and dissent. There was no such thing with the advent of centralized social media. Which is the reason why I was so happy to jump onboard the fediverse when I heard about it: no more owerpowered centralized/unique owner and censor. Worst thing happening around here, I would still be free to move to another instance, or even create my own. To me, even though I don't think I will ever need it, it's great.

Another thing I miss of back then are blogs. They still exist, but I miss the thriving (and exciting) communities that existed around them, with its engagement(s).

Blogs sometimes allowed for incredibly interesting conversations, between very different persons expressing their various and oftentimes conflicting opinions. It's something I think is badly needed today more than it ever was. Something that would help a lot of us rediscover the true meaning of the word 'discussion' (which is not to agree with one another singing Kumbaya) and would help us re-learn/rediscover the importance of being able to debate with people we disagree with without calling for them to be censored or worse... That neutering logic of the 'either you agree with us/me, or you're out of here' (or, I insist, worse).

That variety (and healthy tension in debating), I miss. It still exists online, but it's rare. It's much simpler to find it offline, irl while having discussions with close friends who are not afraid to speak freely. And inside books... those books whose authors are challenging to read at least. Which sadly means avoiding not all but a large chunk of the contemporary production to focus on long gone writers, classics or not, who trusted/expected their readers to be smart enough to be able to read even the most disturbing ideas without immediately suing them or calling for their cancellation.

I miss them, too. I was a member of a writing forum. There were maybe 30-40 very active members. You'd come to know them even if you didn't know their real names. But you'd read from Flower123 in one post and then there was always a category for smalltalk and you'd recognize Flower123 when they wrote about being sick or their hobby. We even had regional meetings for a big poetry forums where 10/15 came to a café. There was just a feeling of being a community.

Unfortunately I am not sure if this would even work today, even if we replicated the forumstructure 1:1. People are more used to consuming media online. You can see that here in Lemmy, too. Many people complain about the lack of content, but not many post or engage. People want to consume, not take an active role in a community. The only reason reddit still kind of works, apart from the bot content, is that it has a giant, international user base so it still feels like a lot of content even if only 10% are very active.

The whole internet culture has shifted from a light-hearted playground to a consumption-based minefield. People use the internet for different reasons. It's a huge difference if I come home from school, ask my parents to use the internet for an hour, go on that one poetry forum that is 80% of my internet activities and interact with the same 30-40 people every day or if I have the internet with me every second of the day and have an endless supply of consumable content that is enjoyable without interacting. People don't really feel like they can/should be an active participant in the discourse anymore unless it's by posting their own, standalone content on platforms like tiktok. And then it's not really an interaction with other people, it's more like everybody is yelling into nothingness.

Personally I think that this Reddit style is an upgrade design wise. And as far as recognising people goes, I'm using an app that lets you tag users (Summit) and this has gone quite a long way. It's also made the start paying attention to other usernames to an extent, so if I notice that someone often posts content that vibes with me or whatever, I can give them a ⭐ or something.

What I do miss from the days when forums were dominant is that people stayed in their lanes a little more. A particular forum or board or even thread is for a particular topic, and people who derailed or came along just to insult and shit on everything were dealt with, without this crying about 'free speech'.

Current day social media has spawned a bunch of people who feel entitled to say whatever they want to whoever they want in any space they want, and cry about blue haired SJWs or something if there's consequences. And they act like the internet used to be this place where forum moderators didn't rule with an iron fist, or like the 'real world' is somewhere that you can behave this way without being punched in the face.

I just think a lot of problems could be solved if jocks went back to discussing sportsball and cars and stayed in their lanes, instead of considering themselves to be experts on biology and sociology and vaccines. There's a fine line between 'free speech' and letting the inmates run the asylum, and the last 10 years have proven that.

Basically what I miss from the forum days is that back then, the conspiracy theorist idiots would've probably been banned, and would've stayed in the fringes of society instead of going mainstream.

Depending on the topics, Whirlpool is still pretty active: https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/

Wake me up when Usenet comes back around.

I really miss the shit-talking forum on one of my old pirate BBS systems. You could just go a post something with the intent of having a mini flame war with someone… blow off steam. Good fun ☺️

and you can sort posts by “latest comment” which replicates the old-school forum experience pretty well, but nobody does it that way

I do it that way, at least on posts with a manageable amount of comments where I actually care about the content of the comments (e.g. threads about someone asking how to do something).

I took a career aptitude test and it told me I should have been a software engineer and idk if that has anything to do with this, but...

Tl;dr: I got high and there's got to be a way to do it in this here vote-time continuum!

On a superficial level, couldn't you get creative with lemmy community settings (using a new sister community) and create only pinned posts/threads (may be subject to mod approval) which are then autosorted by new comments using some scripty pinned post reordering logic? That probably could only apply to a single community though...

The extent of my web design knowledge is limited to fuckin around with myspace html buuut, with more lemmy UI settings, could users elect that certain posts are "forum" worthy? As in, "this is a meme teehee" or "this is a topic worthy of revisiting over a greater period of time" kind of thing. And barring any weird astroturfing, these posts get "pinned" to be revived at the top of the community whenever some reply or top level comment threshold is passed. Inversely, pinned posts could fall away into an archived state after a certain period of no activity, much like the rest of lemmy that's over a week old (whether it's actually no longer active or not).

Getting pinned (hehe) would probably require meeting various straightforward thresholds (like relative or absolute vote value and/or the ratio of upvotes to "pins"). That could determine a sep for how long a post/thread remains subject to revival by reply.

If this configuration were applied to lemmy in general, I think to encourage participation, I'd say it should be an opt-out situation when visiting a specific community (do you want to see community-pinned posts?) and an opt-in situation when choosing to include "active archives" content in a homepage feed.

Not really sure about implementation, but to me it just becomes a secondary voting system as a means to value longevity of a topic, and various ways of incorporating those data into user sorts, community pages, and news feeds that might want to utilize.

Simple as that, right?

^heh^

I still use a few

Still on a forum for sports

Old-school forum with under a hundred people and a couple mods that give a shit is peak but does have problems with stagnation and over-specialization. Casual chat rooms or a -chan style board are a good counterbalance and nobody should exist in only one social space. Reddit et al. is a weird in-between and Discord feels like worse IRC.

Luckily there are still some interesting forums around for specific topics and old school games!

I do miss them, but at least Something Awful is still around