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Italy’s parliament on Tuesday approved a law that introduces femicide into the country’s criminal law and punishes it with life in prison.

The vote coincided with the international day for the elimination of violence against women, a day designated by the U.N. General Assembly.

The law won bipartisan support from the center-right majority and the center-left opposition in the final vote in the Lower Chamber, passing with 237 votes in favor.

The law, backed by the conservative government of Premier Giorgia Meloni, comes in response to a series of killings and other violence targeting women in Italy. It includes stronger measures against gender-based crimes including stalking and revenge porn.

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[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

These comments seem to be full of the same people who misunderstand that the word “racism” describes a massive cultural and societal issue that affects people in large, hidden ways throughout their life, rather than using bad words.

If they had a problem in Italy of men being murdered for not being obedient, it might be worth considering broadening the scope of this classification.

This does not even target the perpetrators as a class (even though we can probably guess a general demographic), just classifies the crime according to what has happened to the victim, and why. This is the same for all hate crimes that are prevalent enough to warrant it. Imo it is the culture and society that makes it a hate crime, not just the intent.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I find it amazing that half the threads on this post I can't open because they're being piled on by people I've already blocked on lemmy. 🙄

Men with sexual insecurity is a driving force of contention and violent politics in this entire world. If you read that special protections are being made for a class of people who are suffering dis-fucking-proportionally and you say "What about meeeeee?" to it, you need to get your shit together. You're not healthy.

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[–] 5too@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm reading a lot of responses here that seem to rhyme with the "White lives matter!" responses to the BLM movement.

As was the case then, what seems to be getting missed by those saying this is the context. Italy has a major issue with domestic violence, including spousal murder. From the sound of it, it's usually women who are the victims. Thus, a new law to target wife abusers specifically.

There may be some merit to debating whether this is an effective move or not, I'm not up on my research there; but let's not deny that they see a need, and are attempting to address it.

[–] Alfredo_DisguidoAlCazzo@reddthat.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hi, saying "Italy has a major issue with domestic violence" it's misleading. Compared to what? To Europe? (we are on the lower end of feminicides, and this law try to target this issue). More in general, Italy it's a very safe place and homicides are lower than the average of europe.

Feminicides: https://www.europeandatajournalism.eu/cp_data_news/femicide-remains-all-too-common-in-italy-and-europe/

General intentional homicide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

To further expand: Is it an issue? YES, is it even slightly going towards a resolution with this new law? NOPE. It's just the next new big title from "Governo Meloni", a right wing party that is in charge, will get re-elected but is acting like it's on the opposition.

This is not like the “White lives matter” responses to the BLM movement. If they wanted to increase the "hate crime" or "gender crime" homicides penalties, they could have said something like "to address the feminicides we will be increasing all the hate/gender homicides penalties". But this government hate gays and trans, just love a christian traditional family and slogans (which none of our representatives was able to mantain btw).

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[–] Realspecialguy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

"Femicide" so... murder? Yeah, hasnt "life" been the typical punishment for murder? (Life is usually 25years) .

Did they not already recognize murder of women should be treated like murder?

Victims of relationships violence (myself), stalking and harassment (myself), should have justice. Unfortunately, I dont hear much about the men who suffer from this type of violence.

[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe I'm wrong but I'm interpreting this being in the vein of a crime being murder, but potentially also a hate crime. The motivation of a crime is part of its definition and affects sentencing especially in tertiary cases eg attempted murder, manslaughter etc.

[–] Xella@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

It's not just about murder. It's about how men are the primary perpetrators of violence against women. As a woman, If I go out anywhere my #1 fear is a man. We are taught to never go outside alone at night, even in our own neighborhoods. We are taught not to trust strange men. We have to protect our drinks if we go out to socialize. Every position we find ourselves in we have to consider whether its safe or not. We can't walk across a parking lot to our cars without worrying if a man will do something. Hell, we even have to consider if smiling at a man or not will trigger him. It sounds crazy and over the top but it's the reality of being a woman. Constant awareness of everything and everyone around us. On average the weakest man is stronger than the average woman. It's very easy to overpower us so we must be vigilant to never get into that position in the first place. It's fucking exhausting having to think these things about every man we meet.

I'm sorry about what has happened to you, it's wrong and you deserve justice. You shouldn't be ignored just because you're a man and it is perceived that you can't be a victim in these cases. I don't agree with that at all and I really feel for you. But you need to understand the things that happen to women every minute and that's the point of what Italy is doing.

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[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

At this point just make a "hate crime" and misogyny fall under this but NO!

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 6 points 3 weeks ago

Too bad that this government also slashed the funds for shelters for women and forbade affective education in primary and middle school. Not to mention cops ignoring calls from women who're being stalked or harassed and not intervening when a man remove his ankle monitor to circumvene a restrictive order.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

This post has helped me root out all the shitty piece of shit incels to block on Lemmy. Thank you for this.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

To be precise, in Italy life sentence is 26 years.

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